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speak easy

(11,372 posts)
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:32 PM Apr 5

I am no fan of conspiracy theories, but I can not ignore the facts -

Everything, literally everything the administration has done has weakened the United States.

If it was one thing, tariffs or NATO, you could put it down to ideology, but whether it’s killing scientific and medical research, or crippling our response to natural disasters, or gutting the Federal Government wholesale, when you add it all up, you have to conclude it is by design, a plan to break the U.S. politically, economically, internationally, in defense and soft power,
in everything.

This is an anti-American Administration.

Doh! Yeah, I know, I’m slow on the uptake. My apologies to those who saw what it was from the get go.

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I am no fan of conspiracy theories, but I can not ignore the facts - (Original Post) speak easy Apr 5 OP
Tariffs for uninhabited islands, but no tariffs for Russia or North Korea. Iggo Apr 5 #1
Trump's reply to that was, RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. Emile Apr 5 #3
And Nancy Pelosi's reply to that was: " 'With him, all roads lead to Putin" MLWR Apr 5 #37
Think "conspiracy theories" are crazy? Here's one that's real: Project 2000 rigged the game. usaf-vet Apr 5 #44
I totally buy that conspiracy blue_jay Sunday #67
Trump has something against penguins speak easy Apr 5 #4
It certainly looks like Putin must be very pleased with everything Trump has done. Doodley Apr 5 #2
If I allow myself to believe that to which all signs point: it is a Putin-Trump conspiracy hlthe2b Apr 5 #5
Oh, it rhymes, alright! It also keeps the same meter. slightlv Apr 5 #34
Presidential salary? maddiemom Apr 5 #56
But Putin and Trump are not really conspiring together. Putin leads and Trump follows, blindly. SharonAnn Sunday #78
Harris warned everyone here about Trump Kaleva Apr 5 #6
So did Hillary. skydive forever Apr 5 #12
Yes. Nobody should be surprised or unprepared. Kaleva Apr 5 #18
And yet ... the studiously ignorant are. nt eppur_se_muova Apr 5 #50
This is all for Putin. Mr. Evil Apr 5 #7
How about a game of solitaire? BattleRow Sunday #75
Imagine what a Russian agent would do as president of the United States. Jim__ Apr 5 #8
I think Trump, like Putin, hates us for our democracy. speak easy Apr 5 #15
The Mango-chewin Candidate. dchill Apr 5 #58
It's a trifecta DENVERPOPS Apr 5 #59
That's a REALLY good way to put it. calimary Sunday #74
Dude was always saying he could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue and get away with it krkaufman Apr 5 #9
Look, they have had decades of experience double-talking the American public. OldBaldy1701E Apr 5 #10
He is destroying America to benefit his mentor and owner Putin kimbutgar Apr 5 #11
I myself don't consider this a conspiracy theories. William769 Apr 5 #13
Doesn't matter when you come to know it, as long as you KNOW it. ancianita Apr 5 #14
G.O.P. war is on truth, democracy, and freedom BoRaGard Apr 5 #16
And no one wants to acknowledge... GiqueCee Apr 5 #17
I'm with you NCgayguy Apr 5 #19
'Today's folks protesting are doing our country a great service.' speak easy Apr 5 #20
You are speaking facts not a conspiracy theory. The whole plan is to destroy the U.S. LoisB Apr 5 #21
The evidence is undeniable speak easy Apr 5 #23
To us; then there are those who are willfully blind. LoisB Apr 5 #36
It's been quite obvious for some time. Irish_Dem Apr 5 #22
'Most people could not wrap their heads around the ugly reality.' speak easy Apr 5 #31
It is my science training. You go where the data leads you. Irish_Dem Apr 5 #35
There are so many forces at work. yellow dahlia Apr 5 #61
Yes quite a few bad actors helped take down the US. Irish_Dem Sunday #73
Russian interference in the 2016 election is well-documented. yardwork Apr 5 #24
The question is, what can be done about it? totodeinhere Apr 5 #25
You're on the right track Peer Gynt Apr 5 #26
What else would one expect from a grifter who so easily launched an anti-American insurrection Otterdaemmerung Apr 5 #27
And another thing AdamThePhantump Apr 5 #28
It was pretty obvious destroying the country is the goal here Meowmee Apr 5 #29
"It's been quite obvious for some time." J_William_Ryan Apr 5 #30
Explanation: Kraznov Martin Eden Apr 5 #32
There is a James Carville video somewhere here on DU that I watched last night, and Sogo Apr 5 #33
'Donald Trump hates America' speak easy Apr 5 #54
As I posted elsewhere, Trump also wants to play the role of General Zod... AntiFascist Apr 5 #38
But it doesn't AdamThePhantump Apr 5 #42
He's dividing his base and handing an advantage over to Democrats (good for us!)... AntiFascist Apr 5 #45
Yay democrats! AdamThePhantump Apr 5 #48
100% right and very scary - NT CommonHumanity Apr 5 #39
The Antichrist at work Mblaze Apr 5 #40
Hell, i'm not even sure if Americans wake up when bluestarone Apr 5 #41
I hope we wake up. AdamThePhantump Apr 5 #43
Paul Krugman considered this and decided that it is gross incompetence coupled with vast ignorance. Martin68 Apr 5 #46
No apoloagy needed, speak easy, and Very Cha Apr 5 #47
A conspiracy does exist and Progressive dog Apr 5 #49
Was this your big clue ? eppur_se_muova Apr 5 #51
What was my biggest clue? Drowning FEMA. speak easy Apr 5 #52
Also that. nt eppur_se_muova Apr 5 #53
This is what happens biocube Apr 5 #55
it's not a conspiracy, it's literally what is happening AlexSFCA Apr 5 #57
Vlad Victory? czarjak Apr 5 #60
Trump is getting a huge payoff Old Testament Libera Apr 5 #62
K&R spanone Apr 5 #63
He's getting revenge on America, Fil1957 Sunday #64
I've been thinking this for the last few weeks. Ilsa Sunday #65
agreed and it's perplexing. Demovictory9 Sunday #66
They're not even trying to mask it anymore LS0999 Sunday #68
He wanted another Gilded Age. SleeplessinSoCal Sunday #69
Has anyone challenged him selling citizenship or whatever he is doing for 5 m I think? Meowmee Sunday #70
Only a select few became super wealthy. The rest? Not so much. SharonAnn Sunday #79
it took years of bashing FDR to bring on the end of the middle class. SleeplessinSoCal Sunday #80
Wholly agree. mahina Sunday #71
Standard operating procedure for a dictatorship dedl67 Sunday #72
My local gas stations conspire to fix prices!! GreenWave Sunday #76
KRASNOV Lokee11 Sunday #77

Iggo

(48,770 posts)
1. Tariffs for uninhabited islands, but no tariffs for Russia or North Korea.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:39 PM
Apr 5

Probably a coincidence, right?

usaf-vet

(7,435 posts)
44. Think "conspiracy theories" are crazy? Here's one that's real: Project 2000 rigged the game.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:27 PM
Apr 5

Here’s the blunt truth: Project 2000 was the start of stealing our elections. First, shove Bush into power. Then, quietly computerize the election system while telling voters it’s all about "efficiency" and "security."

The real goal? Make it easier to suppress voters, reject mail-in ballots, and surgically target communities you want to silence — all using data and computer power. It was a long con to normalize cheating right under our noses.

Now fast-forward to today: Project 2025 is the endgame. They’re not just trying to steal elections anymore — they’re coming for our rights, our wealth, and our future, confident they’ve already rigged the system and dumbed down enough of the country to get away with it.

blue_jay

(46 posts)
67. I totally buy that conspiracy
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:15 AM
Sunday

the second Jeb spoke in some interview in FL before the election was called I knew something was up.

hlthe2b

(109,065 posts)
5. If I allow myself to believe that to which all signs point: it is a Putin-Trump conspiracy
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 01:52 PM
Apr 5

History may not repeat, but it sure as hell rhymes...

Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin did initially plot together through the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (also known as the Hitler-Stalin Pact). This non-aggression pact, signed in August 1939, allowed them to carve up Eastern Europe into spheres of influence and enabled Hitler to invade Poland, effectively starting World War II. However, this alliance was short-lived, as Hitler later betrayed Stalin by invading the Soviet Union in 1941


Putin has referenced Trump's "seriousness" in his plans to take over Greenland and Canada in recent speeches--as reported by Russian media. Likewise he has suggested an "anticipated" blind eye toward his objectives in Eastern Europe.

Can no one else hear the rhyming? sigh...

slightlv

(5,290 posts)
34. Oh, it rhymes, alright! It also keeps the same meter.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:05 PM
Apr 5

I think trump doing all this "shock and awe" disaster capitalism stuff is providing cover for putin to carry on with this plans, yet not be so in-your-face about it all. And yes, I thoroughly believe it was all planned. Started around the time of Reagan and PNAC, and just got updated by the Heritage Foundation whenever they had another "Great" idea. If you can put the U.S. back into the time of czarist russia, under the same type of restrictions, we will become like the russian people now -- disillusioned, hopeless, and pliable. However, Americans have *always* been more pliable than any other peoples in the world, AFAIK. They'll not only welcome their dictator masters, they'll hand them the whip. For more than a few of us, tho, we rebel against ANY authoritarianism.. and especially the sadistic way this one is being formed. 90k active duty troops released from the military? 3/4 or more of all federal civil servants kicked out of their jobs? Where are these people suppose to get the money to live on? He's tanking 401k's already. It's 2008 on steroids, and likely to be worse than the 1930's.

Trump is Herbert Hoover without the charm and ideology. trump just does what he's told to do, as long as they make it worth his while. That's why they wrote it all out in a book for him. Of course, HE doesn't read... but Stephen Miller does.

maddiemom

(5,117 posts)
56. Presidential salary?
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 07:14 PM
Apr 5

What is the story with Trump? Does he take it? Hoover, at least, did not.

SharonAnn

(14,015 posts)
78. But Putin and Trump are not really conspiring together. Putin leads and Trump follows, blindly.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 12:44 PM
Sunday

Mr. Evil

(3,240 posts)
7. This is all for Putin.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:15 PM
Apr 5

I'd be willing to bet that if you could speak a certain word or phrase in front of Tulsi Gabbard she'd immediately stand and start speaking fluent Russian (before she could catch herself).

Jim__

(14,665 posts)
8. Imagine what a Russian agent would do as president of the United States.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:17 PM
Apr 5

Actually, we don't have to imagine it. We're living it.

krkaufman

(13,844 posts)
9. Dude was always saying he could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue and get away with it
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:17 PM
Apr 5

I’m waiting for the editorial cartoons depicting just that, except it’s Uncle Sam he’s gunned-down.

OldBaldy1701E

(7,625 posts)
10. Look, they have had decades of experience double-talking the American public.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:18 PM
Apr 5

It is no wonder that so many fell for it. (Our absolute dependency on stuff that is completely not important to our survival has been drilled into us until even those who can see the programming still obey it from time to time.) Don't feel bad.

Feel Mad.

ancianita

(40,254 posts)
14. Doesn't matter when you come to know it, as long as you KNOW it.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:31 PM
Apr 5

No matter how slow or fast we are about knowing, we're all in this together. You have nothing to apologize for, speakeasy.

GiqueCee

(2,108 posts)
17. And no one wants to acknowledge...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 02:47 PM
Apr 5

... the Bear fucking the Elephant in the room. Putin's bloody fingerprints are all over this, and have been for the past ten years. It's a conspiracy, alright, but it ain't no theory; it's as real as a heart attack.

NCgayguy

(21 posts)
19. I'm with you
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:01 PM
Apr 5

Everything being done by Republicans is premeditated, even the orange buffoon's blatant distractions. It's all to keep everyone talking about the last insane action taken while they execute the next. It gets worse, all those red cap idiots who voted for him that are being hurt by the republican party's actions will soon start thinking the old playground motto, "I'd better defend the bullies or they're gonna come after me". Then you have those idiot become even more militant than they already are. UHM, haven't we seen this before? Oh Yeah, NAZI GERMANY.

Today's folks protesting are doing our country a great service. I just hope none of them get harmed.

BTW, I loved Cory Booker making a stand and God loves Jasmine, but I want to see our DEM LEADERS taking action and not just following up with reels and videos about how great a job they have done. The time for polite response are over, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, WALK THE WALK OR SHUT UP!

BTW, I don't mean to insult anyone here. I'm a pretty stupid person with no ego. I couldn't join any protest today for personal reasons, so you can call me out on that if you want to, you can't hurt my feelings. Everything I post is just my personal opinion.

Thank you!

speak easy

(11,372 posts)
20. 'Today's folks protesting are doing our country a great service.'
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:06 PM
Apr 5

Silence is consent. We, as Americans can not consent to traitors taking down the Republic.

Irish_Dem

(67,790 posts)
22. It's been quite obvious for some time.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:10 PM
Apr 5

Most people could not wrap their heads around the ugly reality.

Yes break the US and destroy everything that made it a powerful, prosperous, respected nation.
And destroy the democratic global alliance.

All by design and in the works for some time.

yardwork

(66,110 posts)
24. Russian interference in the 2016 election is well-documented.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:20 PM
Apr 5

Trump's connections to Russia are well-documented.

It's not a conspiracy theory if all the facts point in one direction. You can call it a theory that hasn't yet been proven, but there's a lot of evidence.

totodeinhere

(13,593 posts)
25. The question is, what can be done about it?
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:20 PM
Apr 5

Will we have a fair election in 2026 and 2028? Will the American people have the ability to vote MAGA out and put the Democrats back in power, or not?

Peer Gynt

(9 posts)
26. You're on the right track
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:25 PM
Apr 5

Trump and his inner circle want to destroy the U.S. economy and military. Look at a map of the arctic or the top of a globe. Putin wants a white supremacist northern (soviet) union, including Canada, the U.S.A., and Greenland. Next will be all of Scandinavia and Finland.

Otterdaemmerung

(126 posts)
27. What else would one expect from a grifter who so easily launched an anti-American insurrection
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:29 PM
Apr 5

based on a whopper of a lie?

He had no legitimate reason to have a rally across from the Capitol on that Jan. 6. NO reason. He had already lost the election.

Meowmee

(8,498 posts)
29. It was pretty obvious destroying the country is the goal here
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:38 PM
Apr 5

Last edited Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:20 AM - Edit history (1)

Stock market crash the latest casualty. It was on a high in January and he did it by design with the tariff back and forth crap at first and then the April tariffs was the last straw.

J_William_Ryan

(2,628 posts)
30. "It's been quite obvious for some time."
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:42 PM
Apr 5

It’s been obvious since Nixon – Reagan destroyed the middle class; Trump is going after what is left.

Sogo

(6,173 posts)
33. There is a James Carville video somewhere here on DU that I watched last night, and
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 03:53 PM
Apr 5

he makes your exact point and flatly states that Donald Trump hates America. He hates everything about its institutions, military, education, etc., the very idea of America.

I agree with you and Carville.

AntiFascist

(13,216 posts)
38. As I posted elsewhere, Trump also wants to play the role of General Zod...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:12 PM
Apr 5

He wants the entire world to kneel down before him and pledge their loyalty before he loosens his grip on the economy and democracy. He probably imagines that teaming up with Putin and other authoritarians gives him that much more power in the world.

AdamThePhantump

(225 posts)
42. But it doesn't
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:25 PM
Apr 5

It doesn’t give him more power. He’s like a coward running to the first autocrat that’ll help him. He wants America to bow to him and say he is lord and savior.

AntiFascist

(13,216 posts)
45. He's dividing his base and handing an advantage over to Democrats (good for us!)...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:28 PM
Apr 5

also, Europe and other countries will be doing more business with China, so tariffs will probably benefit China in the long run.

bluestarone

(19,463 posts)
41. Hell, i'm not even sure if Americans wake up when
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:24 PM
Apr 5

Putin orders his russian boots on American soil.

Martin68

(25,381 posts)
46. Paul Krugman considered this and decided that it is gross incompetence coupled with vast ignorance.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:32 PM
Apr 5

But that's just the tariff bit. The arrests and deportations of immigrants, the weaponization of the DOJ, and similar actions are just pure evil.

Cha

(309,543 posts)
47. No apoloagy needed, speak easy, and Very
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 04:33 PM
Apr 5

Well Pointed Out..

Mump is working for Putin.. Not the American People.

biocube

(46 posts)
55. This is what happens
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 06:48 PM
Apr 5

When you have a president who is funded by people like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk that literally hate democracy.

Combine that with a middle-schoolers understanding of geopolitics and trade you get this.

Don't fall for the Russian agent conspiracy theory. If that was true he wouldn't be threatening Iran and would be less friendly to Israel.

62. Trump is getting a huge payoff
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 11:33 PM
Apr 5

From Putin. What else makes any sense?

Or maybe (and also) Trump is in very advanced dementia

Fil1957

(39 posts)
64. He's getting revenge on America,
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 12:16 AM
Sunday

for losing the 2020 election. Oh sure he says it was rigged, but he knows and believes he actually lost. So he's trying to punish everyone, the Biden voters for obvious reasons, and the Magats because they failed to work hard enough to keep him in office back then.

Similar to the last days of Nazi Germany, when Hitler ordered the destruction of what was left of the German infrastructure because he believed it was the German people's fault they were losing the war, were not worthy of his leadership, and did not deserve to even live.

As he has said before, he loves getting revenge, and he's sure getting some now.

Ilsa

(62,692 posts)
65. I've been thinking this for the last few weeks.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 12:32 AM
Sunday

As far as I can tell, he isn't spending any time or energy with the MAGAts. He isn't doing a damn thing for them, and he isn't having any pep rallies for his ego. He just doesn't give a shit about pretending any more. Maybe Malignia's absence is part of his butt-hurt. But yeah, he's taking his anger out on the entire country, even the world. He's too narcissistic and emotionally underdeveloped to be a real leader.

LS0999

(139 posts)
68. They're not even trying to mask it anymore
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:21 AM
Sunday

As far as I'm concerned it's a terrorist coup. Everything they have done is meant to harm and destroy America. It's almost like they're working directly for the Iranian regime.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,033 posts)
69. He wanted another Gilded Age.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:38 AM
Sunday

Taking an ax to the economy in every way imaginable, makes sense when you know his Saudi golf buddies can buy stocks at bargain prices - thanks to him

In the last Gilded Age, Americans became the super wealthy. This time wealth and ownership of this country will belong to these new gold card foreign oligarchs who will have our rights - And our money.

That's his new Golden Age.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,033 posts)
80. it took years of bashing FDR to bring on the end of the middle class.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 06:27 PM
Sunday

Fascists are the worst Americans EVER!!!

dedl67

(7 posts)
72. Standard operating procedure for a dictatorship
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 07:26 AM
Sunday

Standard operating procedure for a dictatorship is to obtain blackmail material on everyone they can who could be useful to it. I would be astounded if Russia does not have such material on many, many people in this country.,

Lokee11

(319 posts)
77. KRASNOV
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 11:53 AM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:09 PM - Edit history (1)

SAY IT OUT LOUD!!!!!

This is not new, what I do not understand is how the intelligence agencies allowed this to get this far, unless they have many in on it themselves or are/were so purposefully oblivious to it due to their own cockiness and the belief that it could never happen to them/us?

It baffles me, there is a Traitor in the White House - that is clear - and either those with the actual "authority" and opportunity to stop/end it are too prideful to admit they allowed it to happen and thus it continues, or they are in on it and thus it continues .

I hope I am wrong - I cannot even think straight these days because my anger has clouded my thinking.

Regardless - Cheeto-lini is clearly a Traitor and who knows how many others are too - I suspect many with R's next to their names.

Well - always and forever - ✊FDT!

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