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(54,515 posts)
1. i think they want to create a government-run investment fund
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 01:30 PM
Feb 3

to invest in things like bitcoin and other industries that will bribe the crime minister in exchange for those investments.

jmbar2

(6,507 posts)
3. Norway has one.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 01:32 PM
Feb 3

It collects a portion of all oil revenues from North Sea drilling to fund social services for all Norwegian people. The logic is that companies did not put the oil there, so they have no right to all of the proceeds. The riches belong to the people.

Who knows what monstrosity they are cooking up and calling it by that name. Another grift.

Bernardo de La Paz

(52,388 posts)
4. It's a conveyor belt to business bros unless you are Norway
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 01:36 PM
Feb 3

Norway has done very very well out of its fund. But they are competent and non-ideological.

tRump-Muck are incompetent and hyper-ideologues.

Look how well Muck's investment in Twitter has turned out. Look at tRump's six bankruptcies and his meme blockchain coin that has lost millions of dollars for his suckers from trading fees and from being underwater with respect to its debut price.

Muck is one of those faux libertarians, faux because they won't accept liability for their actions. tRump is an authoritarian con man in it for the money.

Ocelot II

(122,796 posts)
5. It's a state-owned investment fund.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 01:38 PM
Feb 3

It's not necessarily a bad thing (although under Trump you can be sure it would be bad, and designed to make money only for certain people and corporations). The world's largest sovereign wealth fund is held by Norway, and its purpose is to invest the proceeds from its North Sea oil production and provide benefits for its citizens.

The Government Pension Fund Global (Statens pensjonsfond utland), also known as the Oil Fund (Oljefondet), was established in 1990 to invest the surplus revenues of the Norwegian petroleum sector. As of November 2024, it had over US$1.74 trillion in assets, and held on average 1.5% of all of the world's listed companies, making it the world's largest single sovereign wealth fund in terms of total assets under management.[This translates to over US$325,000 per Norwegian citizen. It also holds portfolios of real estate and fixed-income investments. Many companies are excluded by the fund on ethical grounds. The Government Pension Fund Norway is smaller and was established in 1967 as a type of national insurance fund. It is managed separately from the Oil Fund and is limited to domestic and Nordic investments and is therefore a key stock holder in many large Norwegian companies, predominantly via the Oslo Stock Exchange.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Pension_Fund_of_Norway

My guess is that Trump wants such a fund as a substitute for the current Social Security/Medicare funding, but I have no doubt that it would be invested to reap profits for the corporations whose stock is under management and not for the benefit of SS/Medicare beneficiaries.
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