OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data OpenAI Stole From Us (404 Media)

[highplainsdem]

https://www.404media.co/openai-furious-deepseek-might-have-stolen-all-the-data-openai-stole-from-us/

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Both Bloomberg and the Financial Times are reporting that Microsoft and OpenAI have been probing whether DeepSeek improperly trained the R1 model that is taking the AI world by storm on the outputs of OpenAI models.

Here is how the Bloomberg article begins: “Microsoft Corp. and OpenAI are investigating whether data output from OpenAI’s technology was obtained in an unauthorized manner by a group linked to Chinese artificial intelligence startup DeepSeek, according to people familiar with the matter.” The story goes on to say that “Such activity could violate OpenAI’s terms of service or could indicate the group acted to remove OpenAI’s restrictions on how much data they could obtain, the people said.”

The venture capitalist and new Trump administration member David Sacks, meanwhile, said that there is “substantial evidence” that DeepSeek “distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI’s models.”

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I will explain what this means in a moment, but first: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha. It is, as many have already pointed out, incredibly ironic that OpenAI, a company that has been obtaining large amounts of data from all of humankind largely in an “unauthorized manner,” and, in some cases, in violation of the terms of service of those from whom they have been taking from, is now complaining about the very practices by which it has built its company.

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[Klarkashton]

1. Oh tough ass.

[Hugin]

2. Well, it was just laying there...

Like a pension fund.

Call the Internet police! Oh, wait.

[BootinUp]

3. just what I gather from headlines is cracking me up, as in hilarious

billions wasted on tech that will never do what people thought it (eventually) (in 3 years) (AGI will/won't make a difference) would.

[applegrove]

4. A government security agency in Ottawa wanted

to buy an old Nortel building to use as it's headquarters. Nortel was big in the high tech world in the 1980s and 1990s. Headquarters were in Ottawa. When the security agency went into the walls of the old Nortel headquarters there were Chinese bugs EVERYWHERE. They've been stealing high tech data for ages.

[EdmondDantes_]

5. In this case it appears even easier

The Chinese company just used the APIs provided by OpenAI to get the information. No need to have someone actually go into the building or even of their desk chair

[dickthegrouch]

7. I visited that office way back when

For a business meeting.
It was February and I’d driven myself from the airport to the vast parking lot in which the only spaces were a long way from the door. After navigating the slippery icy surface I went through the automated first door. There was a heater blasting hot air at me, my specs misted up and I never saw the second,manually opened door. SMACK!!!! Nose bleed. Another half hour late for my meeting ☹️

[applegrove]

9. Oh man. That sucks. The foggy glasses are a danger.

I myself put off a lot of heat when I walk any distance with my glasses on my head. I never use my glasses outside. If I need to read something inside a store I have to wipe them down.

I wonder what the Chinese thought of your meeting?

[LudwigPastorius]

6. Suck it, Altman.

[Kid Berwyn]

8. And that twisted piece of meat wants his AI to connect to your Social Media presence.

I'm sure it's for a good purpose as in his own good.