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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAny illusions that the annihilation of the Federal Government
was not the original long term plan of this cabal should now be gone.
Garlands too slow pace, knowing full well (being a member of the Federalist Society itself) what the Supreme Court would do to protect their guy
. Isnt it obvious they were playing the longer game?
This civil war has begun and their toppling of the Federal Government, creation of wars and aggression ( Greenland, Panama, watch the armed services get deployed) is all just the beginning.
And with the complicit republicans in charge, I see no stopping any of this.
The Democrats in the minority and the courts cannot stop it. We see the Republicans utterly unwilling to stand up against these bizarro cabinet positions. Three defections are not enough.
It has been their plan for decades. But now that they have the tech bros in on it- I cannot see the nation surviving.
no_hypocrisy
(49,759 posts)by way of . . . democracy.
The Republican "Think Tanks" have studied the Constitution and figured out a way to "game the System". Whatever can be built, can be deconstructed.
No military coupe. Just the "right" people in the "right" positions to make laws.
And like the origins of the Third Reich, it's so gradual that the populace doesn't realize what exactly is happening, and once it's happened, it's institutionalized and nearly impossible to reverse.
CrispyQ
(38,857 posts)Didn't Limbaugh gain popularity back in the late 80s? Maybe it was early 90s, but we didn't even have a marketing department, while they were blanketing rural America with messages that dems were elitist, tree-hugging radical leftists & were the problem with the country.
Scrivener7
(53,683 posts)Bread and Circuses
(395 posts)Friend,
My assessment is that the Republic will be lost in 6 months , as Ive been saying for quite some time.
The Felon34 would move fast.
Now with the complete capitulation by Big Tech, Corporations and Media, hes unopposed
Writing the E.O.s and new policy is the Project 2025 staff at Heritage.
And, Musk has tapped into the servers at OPM, perhaps OMB.
The attack on the federal government is at warp speed.
No one is coming.
Dem Senators have voted for Rubio and are barely visible.
There is minuscule coordination by Dems leadership to counter the unlawful activities .
Dem leaders have not communicated what we, the citizens can do right NOW.
I cant write anymore because I am in mourning.
All my relatives who fought in WW2 saved the world.
Now, my country voted for a conman, mobster, rapist and seditious conspirator as The President.
The Founders would shoot us dead for treason and it would be well-deserved.
LiberalLoner
(10,287 posts)Billionaires, living in a few cities with their slaves, and the rest of us turned into biofuel.
I wish I were making that up or exaggerating, but I am not.
The plan is to kill hundreds of millions of us in the US, and they feel confident they can achieve this goal within four years without any real pushback or resistance.
Plan accordingly.
I do not know if any other country is safe from this war against humanity
billionaires against the rest of us.
Blue Full Moon
(1,548 posts)Dan
(4,215 posts)Im searching my memory for some reference to a bloodless revolution? Care to share?
Blue Full Moon
(1,548 posts)If the democrats will allow it.
LiberalLoner
(10,287 posts)Frank D. Lincoln
(866 posts)However, for those who might be skeptical and demand a source for that information, can you cite one or more credible sources to back that information up?
I haven't done a deep dive yet on Curtis Yarvin, but I know he's extremely bad news and one of the most dangerous figures in terms of his malevolent vision for America and his strong influence on Peter Thiel, JD Vance, and many others on the far right.
LiberalLoner
(10,287 posts)In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named Curtis Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym, proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed not productive: convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.
https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas
I only have one source at the moment, I apologize.
Frank D. Lincoln
(866 posts)What a sick, sick psychopath Curtis Yarvin is.
On that Hare scale that measures psychopathology and that maxes out at 40, Yarvin is probably a 506.
Trump is a 33 on that point scale.
Most normal people are around 4.
[https://markinreport.com/2024/08/03/trump-is-a-psychopath/|
Tickle
(3,335 posts)millions of Americans in the next few years. I would like to think we would catch on after a few thousand people died and stop whatever it is they are doing. How would they kill us?
Tumbulu
(6,473 posts)The bad handling of the Covid Pandemic was a good training course for them.
Shutting all communication from the CDC and the scientific communities? Shutting down research? Even short breaks destroys descales of work.
This is all on purpose.
Tumbulu
(6,473 posts)And with the current political alliance, with the hate filled right wing, they are on their way.
They want a pandemic to kill off millions. And wars if necessary to do the same.
It is the point and purpose, reduce the human population. As fast as possible. They dont really care how it happens.
Because they view humans as bad for the planet. I guess because they view others as they know themselves to be. Bad for living things.
They cannot fathom humans who care for life; because as we co evolved with life, we formed reciprocal agreements with these other forms. That many of us take very seriously in the way we tend our farms and animals, and each other.
dchill
(41,020 posts)What does your mom think?
RandiFan1290
(6,467 posts)Richluu
(107 posts)johnnyfins
(1,610 posts)They are planning amd exercising one right now in upstate NY.
harumph
(2,470 posts)whopis01
(3,769 posts)https://hudsonvalleypost.com/fbi-large-scale-nuclear-event-planned-for-upstate-new-york/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14330069/FBI-begins-nuclear-incident-drill-New-York-amid-fears-WWIII.html
rubbersole
(8,923 posts)Lonestarblue
(12,160 posts)They are now very close. They have the power and no one to stop them. What they want are weak governments with few or no financial, safety, or environmental regulations to constrain the accumulation of ever more wealth. Whatever happens to everyone else is not their concern. We are going back to the days of the robber barons who controlled government and basically life in the US. These people know that a major depression is likely to follow, but they will have amassed so much wealth that it wont hurt them. And just as people in the 1920s were encouraged to invest in the stick market to get rich, today theyre being encouraged to invest in crypto to get rich. What happens when crypto tanks?
At this stage, Democrats can only speak out as we have almost no legislative power in Congress. But now s the time for local and state Democrats to prepare to run in 2026 for all offices, using the chaos and the obvious destruction of government programs that help people. By 2026, perhaps more voters will have realized that Trump and his billionaires are just helping themselves and no one else, but Democratic candidates need to point out the destruction.
valleyrogue
(1,362 posts)They AREN'T "very close." It is almost impossible to do it. That is why Trump is issuing these illegal edicts. He is trying, and he will fail, to do an end run around the law.
The "almost no legislative power in Congress" is nonsense also.
These people trying to dismantle the government to give to the psychopaths at the top are idiots first and foremost.
Wicked Blue
(6,955 posts)I'm thinking California at the very least
Dan
(4,215 posts)I suspect that a lot of the Blue States want nothing to do with Trump and the Red States.
They can have their hate and their revengeful God.
Anyway, I think the blue states will put the secede option on the ballot and that with revenue sharing - let the red states starve. But before all that can happen, Trump will declare war.
And that is how America ended
.thank you MAGA, you got what you asked for the hate, and you owned the Liberals, POC, Women, non-Christians, etc.
Borogove
(112 posts)Linda ladeewolf
(574 posts)Is with our wallets. Greed and avarice are diseases, like drugs. If we prepare for a self imposed austerity, buying only those things we need, we will deprive them of their fix. We need to prepare for a pandemic, as well as food shortages. Say, we buy up a good supply of food, medical supplies and other things we think well need and then just stop buying anything but the barest of necessities for several months, I think it will do more than we think. Stocks will plummet.
The fact that these people all have been influenced by one rather sick mind just goes to show they all have sick minds. They are all living in an unreality they built for themselves. They need a heavy dose of real.
nowforever
(426 posts)Trump is an imbecile and his personality disorder causes him to self sabotage.
valleyrogue
(1,362 posts)You honestly think the American people are going to sit back and allow it?
The results of Trump's antics, I am sure I am right but I cannot say it in a public forum.
I am sick of these defeatist threads.
Wicked Blue
(6,955 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(4,952 posts)Yawn! 🥱
dalton99a
(85,619 posts)GoodRaisin
(9,740 posts)The oligarchs have bought the Republican party. We just watched an oligarch buy the election.
Tumbulu
(6,473 posts)that has been poisoning the minds of the majority of the voters is set on destroying all government control. I am not so sure that this group will switch to voting D.
I seriously hope that I am wrong about this.
GoodRaisin
(9,740 posts)like losing something that impacts their pockets directly. In the meantime oligarchs conveniently use them to control what oligarchs want - free reign for their corporate interests to thrive.