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NJCher

(38,629 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:10 AM Jan 29

Dam Finally Breaking on Media Coverage of Stolen Election

And it's not just the stolen election: It's that we have a credible, experienced elected representative questioning it.

Who is the media? Newsweek.

Who is the representative? None other than Dan Goldman, who "worked for ten years as an Assistant United States Attorney in one of the most aggressive prosecuting offices in the country, the Southern District of New York. He was also lead counsel in both of the Trump Impeachment trials."

I can't say it any better than they said it in this Substack, so here's the link.

https://open.substack.com/pub/smartelections/p/a-breakthrough-845?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=4ixvb8

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Dam Finally Breaking on Media Coverage of Stolen Election (Original Post) NJCher Jan 29 OP
Please note in particular NJCher Jan 29 #1
Thx. I look forward to reading it. Bookmarking. Hekate Jan 29 #2
I hope there is substance to an investigation. Lunabell Jan 29 #3
Agree mvd Jan 29 #11
Yep, no way trump won all the swing states. They, and probably musk... brush Thursday #31
Bookmarking Blue_Roses Jan 29 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author intheflow Jan 29 #15
Where was he right after the election? Meowmee Jan 29 #5
It's taken this long to analyze the data and see the patterns emerge. n/t intheflow Jan 29 #16
Other people saw it much earlier and were doubted Meowmee Jan 29 #17
Just to clarify... Think. Again. Jan 29 #6
K&R Hugin Jan 29 #7
I wonder what Dan Goldman thinks about ReRe Jan 29 #8
I remain doubting malaise malaise Jan 29 #10
Newsweek NJCher Thursday #29
You're right ReRe Thursday #30
The bullet ballots RANDYWILDMAN Jan 29 #9
Go for the Gold(man)! BoRaGard Jan 29 #12
If he tried to steal the 2020 election it makes sense that he would try to steal 2024 Maraya1969 Jan 29 #13
There is a strategy behind not taking this head on NJCher Jan 29 #14
K & R Thanks! FakeNoose Jan 29 #18
Apparently none of the people involved have heard of split ticket voting EdmondDantes_ Jan 29 #19
Well, nothing to see here. Lunabell Jan 29 #20
Why don't you call ms crocket's office and ask? questionseverything Jan 29 #21
you obviously never even read the material NJCher Jan 29 #24
I've been so tempted to respond like this to, uh, many here... dchill Thursday #34
No way trump won all the swing states. Dems from other states flew into them to work the Harris election effort. brush Thursday #32
If Dump cheated -- like he always has I might add.... Blue Owl Jan 29 #22
K&R spanone Jan 29 #23
. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #25
What can be done at this point? wcmagumba Thursday #26
Trmp Lost. Vote Suppression Won. By Greg Palast for the Hartmann Report usonian Thursday #27
Wait, what? There's speculation he rigged the 2024 election? nt Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Thursday #28
In related news, media belatedly discover that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. usonian Thursday #33

NJCher

(38,629 posts)
1. Please note in particular
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:15 AM
Jan 29

The part about:

I don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility that Trump is delighting in telling people to their face that he rigged the 2024 election, under the guise of referring to the 2020 election.
In my opinion, it must be understood in the context of the fascist playbook: the goal is to constantly make us question what we are experiencing with our own senses.

Also, another representative who is calling for the truth and to whom we owe an enormous debt of gratitude: Jasmine Crockett.

Lunabell

(7,243 posts)
3. I hope there is substance to an investigation.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 03:48 AM
Jan 29

This election seemed smelly from the start. If it stinks like poo, it probably is poo.

mvd

(65,563 posts)
11. Agree
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:39 AM
Jan 29

I’m not so quick to dismiss people like Palast. Election seemed weird to me also. We must be able to ask questions considering Trump’s history.

brush

(58,662 posts)
31. Yep, no way trump won all the swing states. They, and probably musk...
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:40 AM
Thursday

have figured out how to manipulate ballots.

Response to Blue_Roses (Reply #4)

Think. Again.

(21,197 posts)
6. Just to clarify...
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:26 AM
Jan 29

The research work is being done by the groups "Smart Elections" and "Election Truth Alliance".

https://smartelections.us/

Here is a link to their full report:

https://smartelections.us/2024-election-update

And here is a link to their analysis of the elections:

https://smartelections.us/dropoff

More of their work:

https://smartelections.substack.com/p/strange-numbers

https://smartelections.substack.com/p/so-clean

Hugin

(35,340 posts)
7. K&R
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:41 AM
Jan 29

It’s hard to know that you’ve been correct when you are hips deep in the muck. There it is, though.

I’m used to it.

ReRe

(11,114 posts)
8. I wonder what Dan Goldman thinks about
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:03 AM
Jan 29

Greg Palast? He's been keeping up with our lousy voting system for I don't know how many years.
http://www.GregPalast.com

There's always hope that media will wake up.
I have never heard of "Smartelections.us".
Am disappointed Dan Goldman associates himself with Newsweek, though
Off to see what this mysterious "Smartelections.us" is all about. Thanks.

NJCher

(38,629 posts)
29. Newsweek
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:00 AM
Thursday

Was iffy for a while. I have noticed a big difference ( improvement ) in their coverage for some time now.

If you’re quoted by a publication that doesn’t mean the person is associated with them. It just means they asked a question of that person.

ReRe

(11,114 posts)
30. You're right
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:07 AM
Thursday

Let's hope that question opens the can of proverbial worms and some other major news source starts asking quesstions.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,982 posts)
9. The bullet ballots
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:31 AM
Jan 29

are back with a vengeance ! somebody knew it 3 months ago when it happened

Between this and Palst something should happen, but will it ???



go away you bots and trolls

Maraya1969

(23,129 posts)
13. If he tried to steal the 2020 election it makes sense that he would try to steal 2024
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:53 AM
Jan 29

Also I think we were all afraid to say anything because of the way he acted after 2020 for fear of looking like him.

NJCher

(38,629 posts)
14. There is a strategy behind not taking this head on
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:01 AM
Jan 29

And I think you’re right on what you say. There is an easier way to get him out than a slog through the U.S. media and which we all know is biased.

You won’t be shocked as to who is behind it all. We have been discussing it for years. It is documented.

EdmondDantes_

(241 posts)
19. Apparently none of the people involved have heard of split ticket voting
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:40 PM
Jan 29

This is at absolute best a hypothesis that hinges on the idea that there's no difference in candidates. It's illogical that an especially unpopular administration which the Biden administration was, wouldn't be at risk of running behind other party candidates. Their alleged proof that there's more of them in swing states doesn't really work. Those states should be the ones most likely to split tickets given they are more likely to go back and forth. And then you have specific candidates like the Republican in North Carolina who described himself as a black nazi. Shockingly his poll numbers dropped before election day and he ran well behind Trump and in balance Josh Stein ran ahead of Harris.

This isn't proof or even particularly suspicious. Why didn't they compare how swing states did in previous elections? Why didn't they do any analysis of down ballot candidate quality and polling? It's all supposition that people desperately want to believe, but it absolutely isn't proof or even evidence.

NJCher

(38,629 posts)
24. you obviously never even read the material
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:38 PM
Jan 29

Nothing in your comments suggests that you have. I am, therefore, not spending much of my time responding. I have seen comment after comment like this whenever this topic is brought up at DU. A complete and utter failure to make an argument based on what is posted. Makes me wonder about such posts. They all have this similarity.

There's nothing more illogical than dump being unable to fill his rallies and then sweeping the nation and the Democrats win nothing. Get real. You are not credible.

I would also add that your critique fails to acknowledge Dan Goldman, someone whose credibility is proven nationally. You can't just ignore points you are unable to deal with.


dchill

(41,111 posts)
34. I've been so tempted to respond like this to, uh, many here...
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:57 AM
Thursday

...but I wouldn't have had your clarity. Thank you. What I'll never understand is their motivation.

brush

(58,662 posts)
32. No way trump won all the swing states. Dems from other states flew into them to work the Harris election effort.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:52 AM
Thursday

Blue Owl

(55,189 posts)
22. If Dump cheated -- like he always has I might add....
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:01 PM
Jan 29

He cannot be allowed to get away with it while we all pay the price…..

usonian

(15,555 posts)
27. Trmp Lost. Vote Suppression Won. By Greg Palast for the Hartmann Report
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 12:10 AM
Thursday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219947040

copy

Here are the numbers...
by Greg Palast for the Hartmann Report January 24, 2025

https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won.

Hartmann:
https://hartmannreport.com/p/0ef5118a-d23b-4842-8ebc-da9b578f73fc

Trump lost. That is, if all legal voters were allowed to vote, if all legal ballots were counted, Trump would have lost the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia. Vice-President Kamala Harris would have won the Presidency with 286 electoral votes.

And, if not for the mass purge of voters of color, if not for the mass disqualification of provisional and mail-in ballots, if not for the new mass “vigilante” challenges in swing states, Harris would have gained at least another 3,565,000 votes, topping Trump’s official popular vote tally by 1.2 million.

Stay with me and I’ll give you the means, methods and, most important, the key calculations.

But if you’re expecting a sexy story about Elon Musk messing with vote-counting software from outer space, sorry, you won’t get that here. As in Bush v. Gore in 2000, and in too many other miscarriages of Democracy, this election was determined by good old “vote suppression,” the polite term we use for shafting people of color out of their ballot. We used to call it Jim Crow.


They're not original thinkers. Jim Crow must go.




usonian

(15,555 posts)
33. In related news, media belatedly discover that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:27 AM
Thursday

Fuckers knew the crime was in motion and said nothing.

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