Sen Kaine to gov workers: DON'T TAKE THE PAYOUT - IT's a SETUP

[jmbar2]

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Link to tweet

Addendum: Memo may have been written by ELOON/ Similar verbiage used to get rid of Twitter employees in 2022.

https://www.theverge.com/policy/600995/elon-musk-trump-federal-worker-buyout-email

[Passages]

1. KICK

[Lovie777]

2. Well the magas can............

[Hugin]

3. Count on being stiffed.

It’s what the Tangerine Idi Amin does… Always! Join a Union, instead.

[mitch96]

4. He has a history of stiffing his vendors and workers...So fed employees?? probably...nt

[electric_blue68]

25. I've read it's Known in the NYC/NJ area.

I'm an NYC'r.

[mitch96]

30. Yup, unless you want to work for tRump for free..uff what an ass. nt

[Volaris]

27. Yeah, but how ruthless would it be of them (and i mean the entire fed civil service staff)

To reply 'yes to all' to his stupid email, and then not show up to work monday?.
Basically a 'paid' general strike like that, and that dumb fucker would be impeached in less than 60 days.
And don't think that after it's all done and those peeps are back to work, that they wouldn't get back pay, we both know that would get handled.

Talk about rope to hang yourself with lol...

[mitch96]

29. I think a slow walking sabotage in different departments at different times and days would work...

Flight attendants did that when Mgmt got sticky. They would only strike ONE airline, resolve and then strike another. wash rinse and repeat.
m

[Volaris]

37. I like that idea, too...'its friday, what federal agency took a long weekend?'

Betting money is only Kash will be in the office on Monday, but Tuesday all the lawyers will be back and Interior will take the day...

Juat totally random work stoppages for a few days at a time, just to cause the admin headaches..

[dlk]

5. The check is in the mail...

n/t

[dalton99a]

6. Kick

[spooky3]

7. I sent him and Sen. Warner email saying please resist un-Constitutional actions

(also sent it to my Congressman)

I really believe we should make our views known to our Congressional reps.

[orangecrush]

8. Did that with mine this a.m.

[jmbar2]

13. Did the same

[returnee]

28. They should already know...

…and be readying action, en masse. If not, they’re no kind of representatives; no kind of defenders of the Constitution. We should not have to tell them, but apparently we must.

[spooky3]

38. There is a diversity of views in every Congressional district and every state.

Constituents need to speak up when it matters. The more they speak with a loud and unified voice, the better.

[newdeal2]

9. My first thought too

He will say that the people who took the offer are disloyal, fire them, and have them fight for severance.

Ask (former) Twitter employees how Musk treated them.

[TBF]

10. This should go without saying - he doesn't even pay for his campaign locations!

He owes money to so many arenas, cities, etc.

[patphil]

11. As soon as we saw this on Maddow, my wife and I looked at each other and said...

Who's going to pay for this? Trump has no money to do this, or ability to allocate money for this.
It's a typical Trump sucker deal.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

21. The whole thing is BS

But no additional money has to be allocated; IF it’s real, people who accept would be placed on paid admin leave, which comes out of the money allocated for civilian pay.

The savings would come in FY26 when those positions are eliminated .

[InstantGratification]

35. Easy answer to that

No one pays, because like so many other things in Trump world, they are calling this something it isn't. This isn't a "buy out". No one is being offered a payment to leave. If they accept this offer, they agree to resign at the end of the fiscal year, in return they would be allowed to continue to work remotely until then at the same pay and benefits level they are at now, no extra incentives at all.* Plus, since they will be quitting instead of being fired, no unemployment.

* One post on bsky said there is a clause in the agreement that says the gov can move up the effective date of the resignation at their option. You could accept this offer this week and find yourself unemployed next week! How very generous of Leon Muskrat to offer this incredible plan.

[spooky3]

39. And the memo was contradictory. Part of it said what you reported

But part of it said or implied that no work was required between the notice date and the end of the FY. Just more sloppy BS.

[ReRe]

12. Everything that comes out of Trump's mouth is a set-up!

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Is there a sane soul who would believe anything he says?
Has pure logic gone mad in this world?????

Kaine's right!

[Texasgal]

14. We've been told this is a set up.

My department is very well aware of this craziness and the majority of people affected by this will RESIST. In fact, most that I have spoken with quietly (obviously) have absolutely no plans to take this "payout" .

This will go down as a major embarrassment for Trump.

[Squaredeal]

22. Screw with your employees, and they'll screw you.

And there will be nothing that you can do to stop them from doing it.

[underpants]

26. Good. I woke up to this on my phone somehow

Apple News. I was like WTF.

[JoseBalow]

15. What does it say?

[orleans]

20. here ya go

"KAINE on the Senate floor warning federal employees not to take the buyout offer.

"The President has no authority to make that offer. There's no budget line item to pay people who are not showing up for work...If you accept that offer and resign, he'll stiff you..."

[SickOfTheOnePct]

23. The budget line

would be the civilian pay line, as anyone who takes it would be put on paid admin leave. It’s the same money they would be paid if they were working, but they would be at home.

I’m not eligible as I’m in the DoD, and I don’t trust Trump in any way, shape, or form, but by using admin leave as mechanism to pay, no new appropriations would be required.

[Xolodno]

33. Only worth it if you were already planning to retire by then.

Or just got another job lined up.

Happened to a former manager and my previous company. He was going to announce his retirement and then the company announced severance buyouts. He got an extra six months of pay. Someone else I know already had another job lined up with a start date in about a month. She got a nice little bonus.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

34. Yep

I would take it in a heartbeat, as I plan to retire at the end of the year anyway. I would be retiring 3 months early, but sitting home and drawing pay and benefits for 8 months before that .

Alas, not eligible.

[FBaggins]

40. Or thought that you might be laid off in the near future anyway

Or just didn't want to work for the current management.

Particularly if the market for your skills is still pretty strong but you don't expect it to remain so with this guy at the helm.

[JoseBalow]

24. Thank you!

[TomSlick]

16. It's certain that federal money can't be spent for purposes other than for what it is appropriated.

It's a trap!

[Justice matters.]

17. That is why (in part) the convicted felon tried to fire the IGs

Breaking the Law again and again and again, when did a Law stopped that convicted felon from breaking it?

[TomSlick]

18. Trump has no intention of breaking the law - this time.

His intent it to get a few federal employees to take the buy-out, only to find there is no buy-out.

It's a trap!

[Cha]

19. Like he GD Stiffs Everybody!!

[Rebl2]

31. Said

same thing last night to my husband. Not only will you not get your money, I bet you lose your health insurance and pension.

[HereForTheParty]

32. It's not a severance, it's a delayed resignation date

Employees agree to continue to work from home until September 30 and then resign. Otherwise, they'll be required to return to the office now.

[Midnight Writer]

36. Reminds me of Trump on the campaign trail walking into a restaurant and telling everyone they can order anything

on the menu and implying Trump will pick up the bill.

Then Trump walks out of the place, having paid for nothing.