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highplainsdem

(53,429 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 12:55 PM Friday

Streaming music platform Deezer has discovered that about 10,000 new tracks uploaded there every day are AI-generated

https://newsroom-deezer.com/2025/01/deezer-deploys-cutting-edge-ai-detection-tool-for-music-streaming/

Paris, January 24, 2025 – Deezer (Paris Euronext: DEEZR), the global music experiences platform has deployed a cutting-edge AI music detection tool, discovering that roughly 10,000 fully AI generated tracks are delivered to the platform every day, equating to around 10% of the daily content delivery. Deezer’s tech has been in development for the past year, with a clear aim to surpass the ability of available tools, and specifically discovering AI generated content without extensive training on specific data sets. An application for two patents was submitted in late December, and Deezer is now taking the lead in creating more transparency for both fans and creators.

“As artificial intelligence continues to increasingly disrupt the music ecosystem, with a growing amount of AI content flooding streaming platforms like Deezer, we are proud to have developed a cutting-edge tool that will increase transparency for creators and fans alike,” said Alexis Lanternier, CEO, Deezer. “Generative AI has the potential to positively impact music creation and consumption, but its use must be guided by responsibility and care in order to safeguard the rights and revenues of artists and songwriters. Going forward we aim to develop a tagging system for fully AI generated content, and exclude it from algorithmic and editorial recommendation.“

The new tool can detect artificially created music from a number of generative models such as Suno and Udio, with the possibility to add on detection capabilities for practically any other similar tool as long as there’s access to relevant data examples. Not only that, Deezer has made significant progress in creating a system with increased generalizability, to detect AI generated content without a specific dataset to train on.

“We set out to create the best AI detection tool on the market, and we have made incredible progress in just one year,” said Aurelien Herault, Chief Innovation Officer, Deezer. “Tools that are on the market today can be highly effective as long as they are trained on data sets from a specific generative AI model, but the detection rate drastically decreases as soon as the tool is subjected to a new model or new data. We have addressed this challenge and created a tool that is significantly more robust and applicable to multiple models.”

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Good for them.

All music platforms should be doing this, but unfortunately there have been indications that Spotify might even be adding its own AI-generated music to playlists, competing with real artists.

10% of what's uploaded, already. Wonder how soon that will be 90%?

The companies peddling generative AI tools - which have been illegally and unethically trained on the stolen intellectual property of the world's writers, visual artists and musicians - are harming artists worldwide, trying to swamp our culture and dominate what we read, see and hear.

The AI peddlers and the people using their tools to generate fake art in seconds are a plague on real human culture.
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Streaming music platform Deezer has discovered that about 10,000 new tracks uploaded there every day are AI-generated (Original Post) highplainsdem Friday OP
If they are getting 100,000 new submittals a day genxlib Friday #1
Two years ago, before Suno and Udio, streaming platforms overall were already getting 100,000 tracks highplainsdem Friday #2
Side note: cheesy ai music on Thom Hartmann. cbabe Friday #3
I usually like Thom Hartmann, but he's dead wrong to use and defend AI music, if that is what he's doing. highplainsdem Friday #4
every 5 yr old with an ipad is now posting on spotify lol nt msongs Friday #5
Which is a disaster for the music industry and real musicians. highplainsdem Friday #6
Perhaps it is time to go old school indusurb Friday #7

genxlib

(5,747 posts)
1. If they are getting 100,000 new submittals a day
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 01:00 PM
Friday

I think it is safe to say that they are already flooded with crap whether it be AI generated or not.

Perhaps a better use of AI would be to filter through the 90,000 supposedly real submittals to see if any of them are worth listening to.

highplainsdem

(53,429 posts)
2. Two years ago, before Suno and Udio, streaming platforms overall were already getting 100,000 tracks
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 01:15 PM
Friday

a day:

https://variety.com/2022/music/news/new-songs-100000-being-released-every-day-dsps-1235395788/

I'm guessing that includes a lot of duplicates, with them counting the same track on multiple platforms as separate tracks.

Deezer is now getting about 100,000 tracks a day, so the total of new tracks on all streaming platforms could be quite a bit higher, depending on how many tracks are uploaded to all the streaming platforms.

There are a lot of musicians in the world. A lot of people, period. 100,000 tracks from a total of 8 billion people is one track from every 80,000 people.

But AI tracks can be generated in seconds, by people with zero musical talent. If not stopped, those AI tracks could soon end up outnumbering human-created tracks by hundreds or thousands to one.

cbabe

(4,475 posts)
3. Side note: cheesy ai music on Thom Hartmann.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 01:27 PM
Friday

‘Composed’ by his wife. Thom has defended because real music is too expensive.

Some like it. Annoys me.

Whine for the day.

highplainsdem

(53,429 posts)
4. I usually like Thom Hartmann, but he's dead wrong to use and defend AI music, if that is what he's doing.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 01:31 PM
Friday

He wouldn't want his shows ripped off and patched in with what others have said, with an AI user taking credit and monetizing it.

It's always disappointing when creatives of any type who wouldn't want their work exploited via AI are fine with using generative AI to exploit work done by a different type of creative.

indusurb

(6 posts)
7. Perhaps it is time to go old school
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 02:47 PM
Friday

Ditch the streaming for physical media, CD's, cassettes, and dare I say it, vinyl.

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