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no_hypocrisy

(49,765 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 06:11 AM Friday

Just waiting for the outrage when ICE goes into meat and chicken

packing facilities. If not from the corporations, but from consumers when ground beef becomes scarce and costs $12.99 a pound in the supermarkets.

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Just waiting for the outrage when ICE goes into meat and chicken (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Friday OP
The fear is there............... Lovie777 Friday #1
Donald J. Trump will make Open Jobs in Meat Packing Plants Oneear Friday #2
The skills? Or were you being sarcastic? Maraya1969 Friday #6
Can you start cutting meat tomorrow? Swede Friday #7
I hope so. I worked at a butcher counter for a while. BoRaGard Friday #10
I worked 25 years in a meat packing plant. Itchinjim Friday #36
Oh for crying out loud. I know every job requires training, even if you Maraya1969 Friday #52
Then be goddamned glad there are those with skills and fortitude you lack Mysterian Friday #61
Have you every tried to cut and package meat using a high speed production line lapfog_1 Friday #51
Yes skills and an excellent work ethic. ajmstpete Friday #30
The problem is they are dangerous, exhausting, tedious, and VERY LOW PAYING jobs with no benefits ... eppur_se_muova Friday #47
Are there special overseas schools for meat cutting that the USA lacks? Dumpy Friday #60
The problem is that there are too many young Americans with "superior genes " haele Friday #63
I feel that this is the point. OldBaldy1701E Friday #3
Unfortunately, they are very human. That is our problem. Selfish Walleye Friday #41
Very true. OldBaldy1701E Friday #67
Yep, it won't be the fact that... Think. Again. Friday #4
Exactly. The only thing that matters to these inhuman monsters who AllyCat Friday #28
I work for a major soup company SallyHemmings Friday #5
Whoa Nelly! BoRaGard Friday #12
Wow. Do you know if the CEO/top executives supported Trump? tanyev Friday #27
I got a sense that the now gone President was not a fan. SallyHemmings Friday #64
This message was self-deleted by its author SallyHemmings Friday #65
So far they are only going after blue states. underpants Friday #8
So red states will be able to keep immigrant labor? Irish_Dem Friday #14
That is the GOP game. Just like bronxiteforever Friday #21
Yes the GOP is not a political party, it is a crime syndicate. Irish_Dem Friday #26
It looks that way so far. underpants Friday #54
States like N Carolina are going to be interesting litmus tests tishaLA Friday #23
Tyson is huge in Arkansas and Kansas has meat packing plants galore Bengus81 Friday #29
Yes it will. Virginia too especially if we (hopefully) get a Dem governor underpants Friday #43
WI too. AllyCat Friday #50
Sooooo - instead of leaving the country... lame54 Friday #66
I'm Interested If ICE Is Targeting Only Blue Areas modrepub Friday #9
That could be the plan. Irish_Dem Friday #15
When meat goes sky high it puts a big HURT on Mickey D's, Wendy's etc Bengus81 Friday #33
Trump will bail out and help companies who pay him protection money. Irish_Dem Friday #34
Yes happy feet Friday #42
I Already Pay $8.99 - $12.99 Per Pound For USDA Organic Grass-Fed Ground Beef MayReasonRule Friday #11
This is a bummer for me because I eat the carnivore dietary lifestyle, almost entirely meat. elocs Friday #13
We'll be replicating the infamous food lines no_hypocrisy Friday #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Friday #16
Pretty well said. marble falls Friday #17
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THEY can afford $12.99/lb ground beef. That's all they care about. live love laugh Friday #19
But, they will cut the pay of their kitchen staff Bettie Friday #45
The fact of only targeting blue states will still harms red states...................... Lovie777 Friday #20
Tyson Foods HQ is in my town Diraven Friday #22
They are already swarming all over Waltonville and Tysontown in Arkansas. (Fayetteville, Springdale, Rogers) LiberalArkie Friday #24
Is Huckafuck going to put on her cowboy boots and skirt and put a stop to it? Bengus81 Friday #31
Uh, why do you think she wants to build those new prisons? LiberalArkie Friday #35
I loved the Hispanic grocery store in Springdale. And the bakeries there. sinkingfeeling Friday #32
A lot of may be that the large home construction businesses can't compete to build a home. They have LiberalArkie Friday #38
Who's going to put roofs on houses in Benton county without the sinkingfeeling Friday #40
Don't worry just call up the most expensive place in Benton county. LiberalArkie Friday #44
I had the roof on my big Victorian replaced twice in the 30 years I lived there. I had 12 roofers decline the sinkingfeeling Friday #48
Yep... Weird ain't it. LiberalArkie Friday #49
A seafood plant in Newark, NJ was raided yesterday. 3Hotdogs Friday #37
I can't wait for the outrage when the owners of Luz Friday #39
To control costs, it will be "necessary" to furlough all USDA inspectors and just rush the product through. eppur_se_muova Friday #46
Tyson Foods and Koch Foods will each send Trump 5 million CanonRay Friday #53
I'm sure Tyson already has. He knows his donors. LeftInTX Friday #59
The question is: will white people do those jobs? ananda Friday #55
Pay to play Johnny2X2X Friday #56
Them chicken nuggets are going to get smaller and the price higher. Enjoy. republianmushroom Friday #57
Is Trump gonna raid his corporate donors? LeftInTX Friday #58
Only blue states being targeted Mysterian Friday #62

Oneear

(309 posts)
2. Donald J. Trump will make Open Jobs in Meat Packing Plants
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 06:36 AM
Friday

The problem is there is No one with the Skills to take these Jobs

BoRaGard

(3,725 posts)
10. I hope so. I worked at a butcher counter for a while.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 07:08 AM
Friday

Like every trade, it requires education and skill to do it right.

Itchinjim

(3,127 posts)
36. I worked 25 years in a meat packing plant.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:50 AM
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And yes skills and no they're not being sarcastic.
Nice way to win over the working class.

Maraya1969

(23,103 posts)
52. Oh for crying out loud. I know every job requires training, even if you
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:17 AM
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are cutting lawns. But it is not like you need to spends years or get a PHD for them. And that is not a judgement on anyone who works them.

I could never be a butcher or work in a meat packing plant. I can't even cut up a chicken because raw meat makes me gag. I know these people do hard jobs that many other people would not or could not do.

Mysterian

(5,265 posts)
61. Then be goddamned glad there are those with skills and fortitude you lack
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 01:59 PM
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and stop denigrating them.

lapfog_1

(30,413 posts)
51. Have you every tried to cut and package meat using a high speed production line
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:06 AM
Friday

without cutting your own fingers off?

I haven't.

But when I was a teen, my father had me do all kinds of "menial" jobs like bailing hay, cutting weeds from soybeans before harvest, picking strawberries, and as a installer of iron fencing ( welder's assistant ).

They all require skill, some were dangerous.

He had me do these jobs to both respect the people that do them and to motivate me to complete my education so I could work a desk job instead.

ajmstpete

(26 posts)
30. Yes skills and an excellent work ethic.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:41 AM
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Working in a beef packing plant is not at all like working at a grocery store or butcher. They are working side by side others handling knives making the same cuts over and over all damn shift long with line speeds that are ridiculous and grade changes. Go sit outside a processing plant at shift change and see who is working there. They work their asses off all day, every day.

eppur_se_muova

(37,987 posts)
47. The problem is they are dangerous, exhausting, tedious, and VERY LOW PAYING jobs with no benefits ...
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:28 AM
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... and very little oversight of horrible working conditions. Employers are completely reliant on immigrant labor to keep these industries running. tsf may very well have just crippled their business for months to come, even if the actions are immediately rescinded.

haele

(13,787 posts)
63. The problem is that there are too many young Americans with "superior genes "
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 02:07 PM
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Who are "too good" to do such menial work as meat packing, agricultural, piece manufacturing, or roofing.
They're perfectly fine swaggering around wearing a badge, being heros in their own mind, or playing video games working a "management" or independent job that gives them a chance for long breaks or socializing time.

But manual labor is for Manuel, not Daddy and Mommy's Golden Boy...

OldBaldy1701E

(6,968 posts)
3. I feel that this is the point.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 06:37 AM
Friday

They are being very public about this. They are showing that things will only be okay for us if we fall down and obese before the orange gibbon. They want the outrage. It is sweet as nectar to them. And they know that they will always be able to get meat. They can afford it regardless of any price increases. As to the rest?

They don't care. Which is why I don't care about them. I despise this development, as I am always trying to be a humanist. The issue is, their behavior shows me that they do not deserve to be referred to as 'human'.

OldBaldy1701E

(6,968 posts)
67. Very true.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:04 PM
Friday

I cannot argue with that, as history shows it enough times.

I can hope that we will finally have our 'Star Trek' moment and stop with all the pettiness. The heights we could reach if we would just stop trying to outdo each other over petty greed and even pettier egos.

Think. Again.

(20,794 posts)
4. Yep, it won't be the fact that...
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 06:37 AM
Friday

...our government is rounding people up and putting them in camps that angers people, it'll be the price of hamburgers.

AllyCat

(17,387 posts)
28. Exactly. The only thing that matters to these inhuman monsters who
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:33 AM
Friday

Supported Trumsk is money. And it will come for us all.

SallyHemmings

(1,917 posts)
64. I got a sense that the now gone President was not a fan.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:13 PM
Friday

Not sure about the rest...

In my department, I would say it's a split.

Response to tanyev (Reply #27)

underpants

(188,096 posts)
8. So far they are only going after blue states.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 07:03 AM
Friday

Nebraska (meat packing central) is openly talking about just letting anyone ANYONE come there to fill the spots.

NPR report this week. Nebraska has 39 bodies to fill every 100 jobs in meat packing as it is.

Irish_Dem

(62,197 posts)
14. So red states will be able to keep immigrant labor?
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 07:17 AM
Friday

It will just be the blue states that suffer?

bronxiteforever

(9,710 posts)
21. That is the GOP game. Just like
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:12 AM
Friday

GOP insiders called the last Trump tax scheme the “destroy the Democratic Party” tax. They targeted the local tax deductions to destroy cities.

Also I am sure that contributors to the GOP, I mean King Trump, will pay their protection price to the powers that be. The GOP will run a mafia type government with plenty of opportunities at the feeding trough for the “right people”.

Irish_Dem

(62,197 posts)
26. Yes the GOP is not a political party, it is a crime syndicate.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:24 AM
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Yes Trump is King or Emperor running a protection racket.

underpants

(188,096 posts)
54. It looks that way so far.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 11:10 AM
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As tishLA posted below, North Carolina will be interesting to watch. The Smithfield Packing plant in Tar Heel NC “processes” and average of 30,000 pigs every day and they openly advertise for workers on the Mexican border - if you can get there, you’ll have a job.

Trump is going to Western NC soon to bathe in their misery. Dem Governor but hard Republican in a lot of ways.

tishaLA

(14,436 posts)
23. States like N Carolina are going to be interesting litmus tests
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:15 AM
Friday

Lots and lots of meat production, a fairly large undocumented community, a just barely red state that relies on that industry economically....

Bengus81

(7,717 posts)
29. Tyson is huge in Arkansas and Kansas has meat packing plants galore
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:40 AM
Friday

Most in the far western part of the State. Let's see Trump go after both of those.

underpants

(188,096 posts)
43. Yes it will. Virginia too especially if we (hopefully) get a Dem governor
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:06 AM
Friday

Eastern shore has always been migrant labor, seafood has lots of undocumented as well does the chicken rendering plants in the Shenandoah Valley.

modrepub

(3,678 posts)
9. I'm Interested If ICE Is Targeting Only Blue Areas
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 07:05 AM
Friday

To cause economic disruption only in areas where Dems are in office.

Bengus81

(7,717 posts)
33. When meat goes sky high it puts a big HURT on Mickey D's, Wendy's etc
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:44 AM
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FUCK em,hope it kills their bottom line.

Irish_Dem

(62,197 posts)
34. Trump will bail out and help companies who pay him protection money.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:45 AM
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The corporations think they can buy their way out of all of this.

MayReasonRule

(2,042 posts)
11. I Already Pay $8.99 - $12.99 Per Pound For USDA Organic Grass-Fed Ground Beef
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 07:09 AM
Friday

... on the rare occasion I purchase ground beef...

elocs

(23,154 posts)
13. This is a bummer for me because I eat the carnivore dietary lifestyle, almost entirely meat.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 07:15 AM
Friday

Yes, you can stock up on things, but prepping is really only short term, maybe a few weeks or months for a disaster.
Realistically, next to nobody will be able to stock up for a year, 2 years, 4 years.
America will come to know third world hunger. Well, this will cure our obesity and diabetes epidemic.

Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Response to marble falls (Reply #17)

Bettie

(17,592 posts)
45. But, they will cut the pay of their kitchen staff
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:12 AM
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to make up for it, because rich people will be mad that the food budget it higher, so they'll take it out of the staff's wages.

Lovie777

(15,950 posts)
20. The fact of only targeting blue states will still harms red states......................
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 07:49 AM
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as well. Tariffs itself will hurt red states too. As Mr. Spock would say "illogical".

Diraven

(1,142 posts)
22. Tyson Foods HQ is in my town
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:13 AM
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Also several chicken processing plants staffed primarily by immigrants (though the companies deny it, it's an open secret). We're going to be hit hard.

LiberalArkie

(17,019 posts)
24. They are already swarming all over Waltonville and Tysontown in Arkansas. (Fayetteville, Springdale, Rogers)
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:15 AM
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Per local media.

ERO in plain clothes and unmarked vehicles.

For those who want to read. https://www.reddit.com/r/bentonville/comments/1i89cuw/possible_ice_in_benton_county/

Bengus81

(7,717 posts)
31. Is Huckafuck going to put on her cowboy boots and skirt and put a stop to it?
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:42 AM
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Can't wait to see how that plays out.

sinkingfeeling

(53,656 posts)
32. I loved the Hispanic grocery store in Springdale. And the bakeries there.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:43 AM
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I truly miss the real 'Mexican' restaurants as well, since I moved to farmland Illinois.
Seemed like we lived in harmony between the races. I don't understand the problem TSF sees.

LiberalArkie

(17,019 posts)
38. A lot of may be that the large home construction businesses can't compete to build a home. They have
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:51 AM
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to get rid of the small home builders (migrants) to stay in business. Probably the poultry and meat processing unions want them gone so they can get the work at higher wages.

LiberalArkie

(17,019 posts)
44. Don't worry just call up the most expensive place in Benton county.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:07 AM
Friday

When I was going to a gym in Little Rock a couple of the guys that were always next to me were in home construction and were always complaining about the Mexicans always under cutting them. They said they could not compete with them as they charged half of what they did.

Oh there will be plenty of places. Just expect to have to pay a lot more with the insurance only picking up less than half of the cost.

sinkingfeeling

(53,656 posts)
48. I had the roof on my big Victorian replaced twice in the 30 years I lived there. I had 12 roofers decline the
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:47 AM
Friday

job because the roof was "too steep". Both times an Anglo guy did the estimates and the job was done by an all immigrant crew.

3Hotdogs

(13,767 posts)
37. A seafood plant in Newark, NJ was raided yesterday.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:51 AM
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The local outrage is because US citizens were also detained.

Luz

(804 posts)
39. I can't wait for the outrage when the owners of
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:51 AM
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these businesses get arrested for their hiring practices. Oh, wait, they're probably rich Republicans. Never mind.

eppur_se_muova

(37,987 posts)
46. To control costs, it will be "necessary" to furlough all USDA inspectors and just rush the product through.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:25 AM
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I suspect this was in the plan before the raids started.

LeftInTX

(31,915 posts)
59. I'm sure Tyson already has. He knows his donors.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 01:57 PM
Friday

He's gonna raid taquerias and taco trucks.

ananda

(31,137 posts)
55. The question is: will white people do those jobs?
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 11:13 AM
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And even if some of them do, will it be enough?

Johnny2X2X

(22,077 posts)
56. Pay to play
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 11:15 AM
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These places will just have to learn to bribe the right Trump officials.

Blue states and cities are going to be targeted first. If a corporation donated to the Trump campaign, they'll do whatever they like as long as they keep donating to other Trump associates.

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