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LiberalArkie

(17,176 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 08:00 PM Jan 23

MAYOR RAS J. BARAKA'S STATEMENT ON ICE RAID ON NEWARK BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT

JANUARY 23, 2025

“Today, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents raided a local establishment in the City of Newark, detaining undocumented residents as well as citizens, without producing a warrant. One of the detainees is a U.S. military veteran who suffered the indignity of having the legitimacy of his military documentation questioned. This egregious act is in plain violation of the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees ‘the right of the people be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures….’

“Newark will not stand by idly while people are being unlawfully terrorized. I will be holding a press conference in alliance with partners ready and willing to defend and protect civil and human rights. Details to come.”

https://www.newarknj.gov/news/mayor-ras-j-barakas-statement-on-ice-raid-on-newark-business-establishment

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MAYOR RAS J. BARAKA'S STATEMENT ON ICE RAID ON NEWARK BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT (Original Post) LiberalArkie Jan 23 OP
That is correct bucolic_frolic Jan 23 #1
So they show up to my place of work thinkingagain Jan 23 #2
Photo w phone all important documents, make three copies & keep one copy offsite. Do same for treasured photos. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 23 #4
Will they care... Lovie777 Jan 23 #6
Don't obey in advance. Gore1FL Jan 23 #9
If im not so shocked thinkingagain Jan 23 #10
They can't search or seize your property without your consent. Gore1FL Jan 23 #12
Well written and powerful statement. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 23 #3
So it begins. orangecrush Jan 23 #5
keeping tabs on when this press conference is.. halobeam Jan 23 #7
Bookmarked. nt Frank D. Lincoln Jan 23 #8
Did they stop ice from Tickle Jan 23 #11
Tom Homan is a terrorist. Fuck ICE! Initech Jan 23 #13
Let's go! AKwannabe Jan 23 #14

bucolic_frolic

(48,390 posts)
1. That is correct
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 08:05 PM
Jan 23

and a bit subtle. Foreign visitors to the US enjoy the same civil rights that citizens do. They can sue in our courts, they enjoy protections if they enter the justice system.

thinkingagain

(1,202 posts)
2. So they show up to my place of work
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 08:28 PM
Jan 23

Do we all carry documentation proving that we are citizens of the United States?
and even if I did have my paperwork with me who is to say that they wouldn’t just take it and then I no longer have it

I just for clarification. I am a white person whose family has been in the United States for nearly 400 years
Generally the only thing I carry with me on my person is my drivers license.
And drivers license have been known to be falsified
And I am positive probably everybody that I work with regardless of their heritage or how long they’ve been United States that’s probably the only thing they also carry with them.

Bernardo de La Paz

(52,296 posts)
4. Photo w phone all important documents, make three copies & keep one copy offsite. Do same for treasured photos. . nt
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 08:30 PM
Jan 23

Gore1FL

(22,123 posts)
9. Don't obey in advance.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 09:37 PM
Jan 23

I'm no legal expert so take this for what it is: I'd think the best strategy is to go with what the First Amendment auditers do on youtube:
Carry a phone and live-stream it. Get names. Get badge numbers.

It is 1st amendment protected activity to film public officials doing their duty where photography isn't otherwise restricted. keep a reasonable distance. Don't approach them too closely. Document them.

Should they approach you, Do not consent to a search or seizure unless they can provide reasoinable articulable suspicion of a crime.
If they force you to ID under threat of arrest, provide an ID; you will have them on live-stream violating your fourth amendments rights. Their qualified immunity should be in jeopardy at that point.

Exercise the 5th by answering "I don't answer questions" to any inquiry they may make.

When it is all done, see a lawyer and with their approval, send the footage to one of the aforementioned auditors who review such videos.

thinkingagain

(1,202 posts)
10. If im not so shocked
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 09:40 PM
Jan 23

And remembered to do this
I am awful when it comes to pulling out my phone to take pictures until after the fact.

I know you don’t hand your phone over and if it’s password protected, they cannot make you put your password in, but I think they can make you do it with your finger or your face.

Gore1FL

(22,123 posts)
12. They can't search or seize your property without your consent.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 09:53 PM
Jan 23

If they do, it's another qualfied-immunity-jeopardizing action to bring up to a lawyer. At least unless thye are able to provide reasonable articulable suspicion that you have committed a crime, are committing a crime, or are intending to commit a crime.

Recording is not a crime. Refusing to ID without Reasonable Articulable Suspision is not obstruction.

halobeam

(4,915 posts)
7. keeping tabs on when this press conference is..
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 09:16 PM
Jan 23

I don't see information on it yet on his website.

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