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Susan (can you believe it) and Lisa both vote nay on Hegseth. (Original Post) mobeau69 Jan 23 OP
Need 2 more, gab13by13 Jan 23 #1
Apparently not. It's moving towards final vote on Friday mobeau69 Jan 23 #4
Are any Democrats voting for him ? JI7 Jan 23 #2
See 4 mobeau69 Jan 23 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author sop Jan 23 #6
Fetterman voted no. mobeau69 Jan 23 #7
He's been moving right for a while now... Wounded Bear Jan 23 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author sop Jan 23 #12
That shows Fetterman voting yes iemanja Jan 23 #14
Wrong vote Wiz Imp Jan 23 #20
I eventually figured that out. nt iemanja Jan 23 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Sucha NastyWoman Jan 23 #25
Wrong Wiz Imp Jan 23 #18
I can believe it, if her "no" vote doesn't matter in the end. W_HAMILTON Jan 23 #3
You can always count on susan's vote when you don't need it. Salviati Jan 23 #36
When asked about their votes... D. Spaulding Jan 23 #8
+1 dalton99a Jan 23 #10
This is the actual vote for appointment correct? JustAnotherGen Jan 23 #11
'Pete Hegseth, Trump's Pentagon pick, clears Senate test vote' sop Jan 23 #13
No. Cloture vote. Wiz Imp Jan 23 #21
Thank you JustAnotherGen Jan 23 #39
Not the final vote kacekwl Jan 23 #15
Murkowski said she thought Vance would cast a tie-breaking vote Wiz Imp Jan 23 #26
I'm betting SickOfTheOnePct Jan 23 #29
Makes sense. Wiz Imp Jan 23 #33
We will see. Lots of phone calls, texts and arm twisting will reach previously unheard of proportions. Army is mobilized Evolve Dammit Jan 23 #16
Of course they voted no because on the final vote their votes will not be needed. totodeinhere Jan 23 #17
Correct about Collins. Wrong on Murkowski. Wiz Imp Jan 23 #24
Just goes to show Aviation Pro Jan 23 #19
I called my bdamomma Jan 23 #23
oh is she CONCERNED Skittles Jan 23 #27
There has to be more Republicans that are concerned Buddyzbuddy Jan 23 #28
I know Susan was concerned. OLDMDDEM Jan 23 #30
I've previously posted this list of 7 Republican Senators Buddyzbuddy Jan 23 #31
If any are already in the crosshairs, make your vote count for the good of the country. nt Jit423 Jan 23 #37
Good list. However, I doubt more than 1 additional Senator beyond Murkowski & Collins Wiz Imp Jan 23 #40
The difference is, it doesn't matter either way if her vote Buddyzbuddy Jan 23 #41
Yippee!!! I'm willing to bet McConnell will vote NO surfered Jan 23 #32
Come on Mitch! D. Spaulding Jan 23 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Jan 23 #35
According to Scott Dworkin: Wiz Imp Jan 23 #38

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iemanja

(55,406 posts)
14. That shows Fetterman voting yes
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 04:02 PM
Jan 23

Editorial comment withheld.

And Markey didn't vote. Why?

Response to iemanja (Reply #14)

W_HAMILTON

(8,666 posts)
3. I can believe it, if her "no" vote doesn't matter in the end.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 03:11 PM
Jan 23

Murkowski is a bit more principled, though, so I could see her voting "no" regardless.

D. Spaulding

(105 posts)
8. When asked about their votes...
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 03:24 PM
Jan 23

Hegesth has stated that he has never let a "No" from any woman stop him before.

sop

(12,328 posts)
13. 'Pete Hegseth, Trump's Pentagon pick, clears Senate test vote'
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 03:59 PM
Jan 23

"Pete Hegseth, President Donald Trump's pick to lead the Pentagon, cleared a key procedural hurdle in the Senate on Thursday to advance his nomination."

"The vote on ending debate came down to the wire, though Hegseth ultimately secured 51 Republican votes to move forward."

"A final confirmation vote on Hegseth could now occur as soon as Friday or early Saturday."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senate-hold-test-vote-pete-hegseth-key-republican/story?id=118032834

Wiz Imp

(3,384 posts)
21. No. Cloture vote.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 05:29 PM
Jan 23
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00014.htm

Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture: Peter Hegseth to be Secretary of Defense )

Expect the final vote to be the same.

Wiz Imp

(3,384 posts)
26. Murkowski said she thought Vance would cast a tie-breaking vote
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 05:33 PM
Jan 23

So don't expect any Democrats to change. Maybe 1 Republican will change to a no but I wouldn't know who.

Evolve Dammit

(19,743 posts)
16. We will see. Lots of phone calls, texts and arm twisting will reach previously unheard of proportions. Army is mobilized
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 05:17 PM
Jan 23

totodeinhere

(13,490 posts)
17. Of course they voted no because on the final vote their votes will not be needed.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 05:22 PM
Jan 23

This is the pattern that both have followed for a long time. They are both spineless. They want to appear more moderate but in effect they are just showing off. I would really love to see both lose reelection to a good progressive Democrat.

Aviation Pro

(13,821 posts)
19. Just goes to show
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 05:24 PM
Jan 23

That nearly the entirety of these motherfucking shitbags have zero integrity, self-awareness or intuition when it comes to the safety and security of the nation. The only things these assclowns are good for are bobbing on Motherfucker’s knob and licking his shit stained taint, metaphorically, of course.

Or is it?

bdamomma

(67,237 posts)
23. I called my
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 05:30 PM
Jan 23

Senator Jack Reed and left message to say NO, he's on the Committee and a Democrat.

Buddyzbuddy

(304 posts)
28. There has to be more Republicans that are concerned
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 05:43 PM
Jan 23

enough about our Nation's defense. STOP and think. It's bigger than giving in to his agenda. You are doing our enemy's bidding. We all will be left vulnerable and you will be one of 100 votes that could have stopped this madness. It's self preservation and you know it. You were so concerned when the previous Secretary was laid up in the hospital having life saving surgery but you're not concerned about this nominee being incommunicado due to an alcoholic induced sex party bender? Are you kidding? You're positions in the Senate at this time are the most important things you will ever do in your lives and you want to abdicate your responsibility to a childish tyrant.

Buddyzbuddy

(304 posts)
31. I've previously posted this list of 7 Republican Senators
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 05:49 PM
Jan 23

that are already on Diaper Don's shit list. 2 of which are already making the right decision. Keep up the pressure.
Still, other GOP senators could be in Trump’s crosshairs, in addition to Ernst, including Murkowski, Mitch McConnell (Ky.), Bill Cassidy (La.), Susan Collins (Maine), Todd Young (Ind.), Mike Rounds (S.D.) and John Curtin (Utah).

Lisa Murkowski

The Alaska senator is a rare phenomenon in today’s Republican Party: an independently-minded voice who isn’t afraid to call out Donald Trump. At a No Labels conference earlier this month, Murkowski called herself “more of a Ronald Reagan … Republican than I am a Trump Republican,” adding that she’d prefer being known as someone who seeks to “do right by this state and the people that I serve regardless of party.”

She doesn’t face reelection until 2028, and the last time she did, in 2022, she survived a Trump-backed challenger thanks to substantial support from independents in Alaska. She has expressed concerns with several of Trump’s nominees, including Hegseth and anti-vaccine advocate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has been tapped to lead the Health and Human Services Department.

Susan Collins

Collins is another moderate Republican who has expressed concerns with some of Trump’s nominees. Like Murkowski, the Maine senator, she has been a critic of Trump and also voted to convict him over his involvement in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Asked by HuffPost if she worried about retribution from Trump or his allies, Collins, who is up for reelection in 2026, said she planned to vet Trump’s nominees like every other president before him.

“I’ve always approached the nominees, whether they’re Democratic or Republican presidents, in the same manner. I sit down with them and interview them, I look at the background check, I monitor or participate in the public hearing, and then I do what I think is right,” Collins said. “I’ve always given a lot of deference to the president’s choices, because I believe in general, the president should be able to assemble his own team, but I have voted against a few of them in the past, and we’ll see what happens.”

Mitch McConnell

The 82-year-old Kentucky Republican stepped down as Senate GOP leader in December after nearly two decades on the job, and he could be a wildcard during what is likely the last two years of his Senate career. Although he’s typically unwilling to criticize or even talk about Trump, he may feel differently now that he’s out of leadership and free of wider responsibility.

Earlier this month, McConnell fired a warning shot at RFK Jr. for working with a lawyer who sought to revoke approval of the lifesaving polio vaccine for children. The issue is a personal one for McConnell: He struggled with polio as a child.

“Efforts to undermine public confidence in proven cures are not just uninformed ― they’re dangerous,” McConnell said. “Anyone seeking the Senate’s consent to serve in the incoming administration would do well to steer clear of even the appearance of association with such efforts.”

John Curtis

All eyes will be on Curtis, a low-profile House Republican from Utah who was elected in 2024 to replace retiring Sen. Mitt Romney in the upper chamber. Will he go the way of Romney, a vocal critic of Trump? Or will he keep his head down and fall in line with the MAGA contingent in Congress?

“I’m not a rubber stamp,” Curtis told ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday. “I think me speaking my mind and being upfront makes the president a better president.”

“Anybody who wants to give me heat for doing my job, bring it on. This is my job. It’s my constitutional responsibility,” he added.

Curtis expressed concerns with Kash Patel, Trump’s nominee to lead the FBI, and he has not yet backed Hegseth despite meeting with him earlier this month.

One early tell, at least on fiscal matters: Curtis last week voted along with other deeply conservative members of the House to reject a government funding bill that included a hike in the statutory borrowing limit, which Trump had demanded.

Mike Rounds

The amiable South Dakotan, who initially backed Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) over Trump in the 2024 GOP presidential race, has said that all of Trump’s nominees should get “the benefit of the doubt” while starting out ― comments that Trump’s transition touted in their favor.

But Rounds has also expressed concerns with RFK Jr. and his views on vaccines. “I want to know what his real concerns are and what he would want to do different. But I do not want to lose our vaccine programs,” he told reporters this month.

Asked by HuffPost if he was thinking about drawing a primary challenger ahead of his 2026 reelection campaign, Rounds downplayed the possibility and stressed he wanted to play a constructive role in building out Trump’s team.

“I have never had a time in which there weren’t suggestions of, you know, having primaries. Primaries are a part of the process,” Rounds said. “At this point, we’re just all part of the same team. And I think that’s what we’re going to focus on is keeping everybody on the same team and getting this stuff done. So it’s team building right now. It’s not a negative approach, it’s a positive approach.”

Todd Young

Young, a former U.S. Marine known for working across the aisle, won a second term in 2022 despite not having Trump’s endorsement after he said the former president bore responsibility for the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection.

In 2023, Young upped the ante and announced he wouldn’t support him in the 2024 presidential race. He’s been largely mum on Trump since then, but he’s had plenty of positive things to say about most of his nominees. Still, Young could be a senator to watch ― particularly on Hegseth’s expected nomination to lead the Pentagon.

When asked by CNN earlier this month about the allegations of sexual misconduct leveled against Hegseth, which the former Fox News host has denied, Young said he had a “fulsome” conversation with Hegseth that “covered everything on my mind,” but indicated he’s not ready to back him yet for the job.

Wiz Imp

(3,384 posts)
40. Good list. However, I doubt more than 1 additional Senator beyond Murkowski & Collins
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 10:31 PM
Jan 23

votes no. Collins almost always votes against the Republican majority only when she knows for certain her vote will not make a difference in the final result.

Until the vote happens, though, we can still hold on to the very remote hope that a couple more people on your list do the right thing.

Buddyzbuddy

(304 posts)
41. The difference is, it doesn't matter either way if her vote
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 11:41 PM
Jan 23

denies the acceptance of the nomination, she now has a target on her back from her own party for the duration as well as Murkowski, McConnell and Thune.

surfered

(4,678 posts)
32. Yippee!!! I'm willing to bet McConnell will vote NO
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 05:49 PM
Jan 23

Then we need one more GOP vote or Vance will cast the tie breaker

D. Spaulding

(105 posts)
34. Come on Mitch!
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 06:06 PM
Jan 23

Do the right thing and vote against. Make up for letting Trump slide on Impeachment.

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