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malaise
(280,444 posts)RFN!
Crush these monsters
Walleye
(37,378 posts)The current batch in Germany are far less crude, more refined in their approach. They have to be. Germany after the first world war was an economic basket case. People were out of work, their money was worthless and starvation was real. Anger was everywhere, and a LOT of people were looking for someone to blame. Kaiser Wilhelm II had already gone into exile, and anyway, even if they hung him from the highest tree, that wasn't going to feed anyone. It was a demagogue's dream.
Today's Germany is relatively prosperous. Their systems of welfare are clumsy and cumbersome, as all systems put together by bureaucrats tend to be. But unemployment is not at 40%, and there is a safety net for the worst off. It is not perfect, but the number of people without health insurance is in the hundreds of thousands, not the tens of millions like in the USA. Welfare money does run out for some near the end of every month, as my wife (a former German social worker), but she said that was among the heavy abusers of alcohol and cigarettes, which are deliberately expensive (the cigarettes, that is) to offset the expensive care they need when they get lung cancer and emphysema. On the whole, Germany, even after having absorbed over a million Syrian refugees, is an affluent country. Like the USA, on the whole, stores are filled with shoppers, trains, hotels and planes are full, cafés and restaurants are full, and to rile up people to the point where they vote for the far right, a sophisticated media propaganda machine is necessary to get people to be angry about something. That's where Musk's huge financing comes in. Without an expensive PR machine, their path upward is full of obstacles. Ninety years ago, the National Socialists had it handed to them on a silver platter.
I live there, speak the language fluently, am married to a citizen and have one daughter who got a job there and chose to stay there. If you want a real impression of what's going on there, learn German, watch their talk shows, read their papers. Blogs from elsewhere won't cut it.
Walleye
(37,378 posts)In particular, but it seems to be all over Europe. Thanks for the info
3825-87867
(1,220 posts)He doesn't want to be president.
He wants to be king/emporer/god of the world.
And he's willing to work with Putin to take the west and let Putin have the east...for now.
What Putin doesn't understand is his days are numbered since Musk has more money and because of that, more power and maybe more concern, than "our" mythical, benevolent(?) god.
Trump was a stepping stone means to Musk's ends.
The only way today to "take over the country and the world" is to get the people to fight against each other, ignore the rich while the over class watches and waits to come in and rule.
And we fell right into it here in America - first.
We hate maga and maga hates us. All the while the wealthy decide what THEY want to do, with and to us.
An old friend from a foreign land once told me that Americans, deep down, are the stupidest people on earth and think they are entitled to anything they want irrespective of other's views.
We're happy in our own little world not caring a bit about others in other countries or even here so long as it "Doesn't Affect Me!" And we're too dumb to do anything about it. Then when it DOES affect "ME", the cry is why didn't someone do something? Mores the pity.
Some day in maybe the 22nd Century, it'll be a writ that all they had to do was stand up, but they chose not to and blamed everyone else but themselves.
Hell of a legacy for the greatest land on earth.
malaise
(280,444 posts)Rec
Frank D. Lincoln
(894 posts)Wiz Imp
(3,345 posts)oasis
(51,919 posts)Nanjeanne
(5,535 posts)From Haaretz:
He visited Israel after the October 7 massacre in which Hamas terrorists committed the worst atrocity against the Jewish people since the Holocaust," Netanyahu wrote. "He has since repeatedly and forcefully supported Israel's right to defend itself against genocidal terrorists and regimes who seek to annihilate the one and only Jewish state. I thank him for this," he added.
Netanyahu wrote in response to a tweet by Musk, in which he wrote: "The radical leftists are really upset that they had to take time out of their busy day praising Hamas to call me a Nazi."
Free Haaretz link https://archive.is/vORIE]
So both Nick Fuentes who confirms the Nazi salute and Bibi defend Musk. Strange bedfellows!
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