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allegorical oracle

(3,636 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:21 PM 6 hrs ago

Judge Cannon wonders "Why the urgency" to share Smith's classified docs case with Congress

Source: CNN
Judge Aileen Cannon suggested Friday she was not inclined to allow the Justice Department to share special counsel Jack Smith’s report on the classified documents case with Congress – at least for now.

“At the end of the day, what’s the urgency of doing this right now?” Cannon asked Justice Department attorney Elizabeth Shapiro at a hearing in her Ft. Pierce, Florida, courtroom.

Attorney General Merrick Garland earlier this week released the part of Smith’s report focusing on January 6 and Trump’s attempt to overturn the election. The Justice Department is seeking to show the classified documents report to a handful of members of Congress, but not yet make it public.

Smith has resigned from the department, and Garland will lose all control over what happens to the report – and the classified documents case writ large – once Trump is inaugurated Monday at noon.

My question: What right does a taxpayer paid judge have to withhold a report that was prepared with taxpayers' dollars? Don't those documents belong to us? And it's not like disclosing Smith's report will interfere with the election of DJT. Guarantee you...that report will vanish.

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Judge Cannon wonders "Why the urgency" to share Smith's classified docs case with Congress (Original Post) allegorical oracle 6 hrs ago OP
The urgency is that it will undoubtedly be stopped Whyisthisstillclose 6 hrs ago #1
Trump will classify the Smith report as soon as he's sworn in. sop 6 hrs ago #2
Outrageous. Wish everyone would call their Senators and Reps and insist the report be allegorical oracle 6 hrs ago #6
WHY THE URGENCY??? DET 6 hrs ago #3
She asks what's the urgency knowing damn well yorkster 6 hrs ago #4
ORLY? Seems like a better question is "Why is Judge Cannon so desperate tanyev 6 hrs ago #5
How long do American citizens dweller 6 hrs ago #7
She dismissed the charges, NameAlreadyTaken 6 hrs ago #8
Absolutely. She has no bearing, no weight on this issue, of releasing the report, she has nothing to do w/ the report, SWBTATTReg 6 hrs ago #9
Cannon is a co-conspirator. Kid Berwyn 5 hrs ago #10
DEI hire Johonny 5 hrs ago #11
How did Shapiro keep a straight face? dickthegrouch 5 hrs ago #12
No Urgency at all. Da. Kid Berwyn 5 hrs ago #13
Deserves a post of its own dweller 3 hrs ago #14
1. The urgency is that it will undoubtedly be stopped
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:26 PM
6 hrs ago

once fatass is in office. Is she really using no urgency as her excuse? What an asshole.

sop

(11,929 posts)
2. Trump will classify the Smith report as soon as he's sworn in.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:29 PM
6 hrs ago

The report will never be released.

allegorical oracle

(3,636 posts)
6. Outrageous. Wish everyone would call their Senators and Reps and insist the report be
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:34 PM
6 hrs ago

released because it involves documents that belong to all the people. It's not the private property of DJT.

DET

(1,776 posts)
3. WHY THE URGENCY???
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:31 PM
6 hrs ago

Because the fate of our country could hang in the balance. And she’s ’not Inclined’??? Get your ass in gear, Garland, and overrule this pissant bought and paid for judge.

yorkster

(2,589 posts)
4. She asks what's the urgency knowing damn well
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:31 PM
6 hrs ago

the case will be dropped as soon as Trump
is re-installed and we all know it.
Somebody please leak the report, at least for history.

tanyev

(44,928 posts)
5. ORLY? Seems like a better question is "Why is Judge Cannon so desperate
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:31 PM
6 hrs ago

to keep the report from Congress?”

NameAlreadyTaken

(1,700 posts)
8. She dismissed the charges,
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:47 PM
6 hrs ago

so why is she involved with the case any more at all? She washed her hands of the whole thing. So she needs to just SHUT UP.

SWBTATTReg

(24,529 posts)
9. Absolutely. She has no bearing, no weight on this issue, of releasing the report, she has nothing to do w/ the report,
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:00 PM
6 hrs ago

creating the report (prepared by Smith, Justice Dept), so you're right, she needs to shut her pie hole.

dickthegrouch

(3,690 posts)
12. How did Shapiro keep a straight face?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:52 PM
5 hrs ago

My reaction to seeing cannon’s question was an immediate visceral snort. I hope cannon got a schooling in the answer.

Kid Berwyn

(18,648 posts)
13. No Urgency at all. Da.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:06 PM
5 hrs ago

While the Orange Turd may be held to account for "election interference" by hiding hush money payments, "mishandling" Top Secret and Sensitive Defense Information, "stealing" a presidential election, "hiding" money from various banks and the taxman, plus who knows what high crimes and misdemeanors else, one important area has not been addressed by Special Counsel or the investigative units of mainstream media:

As pee-resident, Trump represented the most successful spy operation of all time: Putin’s insertion of an active agent into the Oval Office.



Unretouched photo in which then-President Donald Trump sends former KGB colonel Vladimir Putin a conspiratorial wink.



Trump hid his calls with Putin. Now, Biden has access to them.

What was said between the two leaders is a great mystery, one that advisers to the current president say is imperative to find out.


By NATASHA BERTRAND and DANIEL LIPPMAN
Politico, 02/09/2021

Few Trump-era mysteries are as intriguing as what the 45th president said to Vladimir Putin in at least a dozen rambling, off-the-cuff calls and meetings over four years. Understanding what was said between the two could help illuminate whether Trump ever revealed sensitive information or struck any deals with the Kremlin leader that could take the new administration by surprise.

Now that President Joe Biden is in the White House, he can see for himself.

“They don’t need our approval to see those [records],” a former Trump White House official said, referring to the new Biden national security team. “Biden owns all the call materials. There is only one president at a time.”

SNIP…

“It is a national security priority to find out what Trump said to Putin” over his four years in office, said one former national security official who is close to the new president. “Some things, like what happened in some face-to-face meetings where no American translator or note-taker was present, may never be fully known. But I would be very surprised if the new national security team were not trying to access” the call records.

SNIP…

Trump went to particularly great lengths to keep his in-person conversations with the Russian leader private, from confiscating his interpreter’s notes to forgoing American translators and notetakers altogether in their meetings. That desire for secrecy has extended even past his time in office. One former Trump official argued last week that records of Trump’s conversations with Putin, which often lasted an hour or more, should not be made available to his successor.

SOURCE: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/09/biden-can-access-trump-putin-calls-468100



In his capacity as pee-resident, Trump represented an existential threat to national security as an agent working to advance the interests of Vladimir Putin. Therefore, in lieu of an investigation by the press or Congress, it would advance the national interest for the Department of Justice to investigate the troubling relationship between Boss Putin and Toad Trump. (Otherwise, without involvement by DoJ, Every Good American would want to perform a Citizen's Arrest the next time the guy is in town.)



Trump’s Top Targets in the Russia Probe Are Experts in Organized Crime

Some of President Trump’s favorite targets in the Russia probe have spent their careers in the Justice Department and the FBI investigating organized crime and money laundering, particularly as they pertain to Russia.


NATASHA BERTRAND
The Atlantic, AUG 30, 2018

Bruce Ohr. Lisa Page. Andrew Weissmann. Andrew McCabe. President Donald Trump has relentlessly attacked these FBI and Justice Department officials as dishonest “Democrats” engaged in a partisan “witch hunt” led by the special counsel determined to tie his campaign to Russia. But Trump’s attacks have also served to highlight another thread among these officials and others who have investigated his campaign: their extensive experience in probing money laundering and organized crime, particularly as they pertain to Russia.

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Trump’s latest obsession is with Bruce Ohr, a career Justice Department official who spent years investigating Russian organized crime and corruption—an expertise he shared with another Trump target named Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence operative who provided valuable intelligence on Russia to the State Department and the FBI’s Eurasian Organized Crime Task Force prior to authoring the Trump-Russia dossier in 2016. Ohr and Steele met in 2007, according to The New York Times, and stayed in touch as a result of their shared interests and mutual respect. Trump has tweeted about Ohr nearly a dozen times this month alone, complaining about his relationship with Steele and Ohr’s wife’s past work for Fusion GPS—the opposition-research firm that hired Steele in 2016 to research Trump’s Russia ties.

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Trump’s fixation with seeing Ohr ousted from the Justice Department could be perceived as yet another attempt to undermine the credibility of the people who have investigated him. It could also be interpreted as an attack on someone with deep knowledge of the shady characters Trump and his cohort have been linked to, including Semion Mogilevich, the Russian mob boss, and Oleg Deripaska, a Russian aluminum magnate close to Putin who did business with Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort. (Incidentally, another Manafort associate, the Ukrainian billionaire Dmitry Firtash, admitted that he only managed to be in business because Mogilevich allowed him to be, according to a leaked 2008 State Department cable.) Ohr was involved in banning Deripaska from the U.S. in 2006, due to his alleged ties to organized crime and fear that he would try to launder money into American real estate. Nearly a decade later, Ohr and the FBI sought Deripaska’s help in taking down overseas criminal syndicates.

Snip...

The president has denied having any business ties to Russia, and his dream of building a Trump Tower Moscow never materialized. But his links to Russian oligarchs and mobsters from the former Soviet Union have been documented: Millions of dollars from the former Soviet Union flowed into Trump’s developments and casinos throughout the 1990s, as the journalist Craig Unger has chronicled, as oligarchs looked for a place to hide their money in the West. The Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, was once known as a hot spot for Brooklyn mobsters associated with the Russian Mafia, and quickly became the “favorite East Coast destination” of the top Russian mob boss Vyacheslav Ivankov, according to the 2000 book Red Mafiya: How the Russian Mob Has Invaded America. It was also repeatedly cited by the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network for having inadequate money-laundering controls.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/trumps-top-targets-in-the-russia-probe-are-experts-in-organized-crime/569056/



So. How many Americans even know this story? Most all the people I have asked about it have no clue. And for that ignorance, I blame the Media Monopoly, AKA the mainstream press, comprised of broadcast news organizations and America's major newspapers and news magazines, such as they are.

Of course, there's more to the Trump-Putin Love Story. Trump actually invited the GRU into the Oval Office.



The photo of Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and dip above was taken by TASS, the official Russian news agency. The US media were not informed about the 2017 visit. We learned about it because the Unhinged Moron himself spread the pic proudly on social media.

How many people do you know who’ve seen that picture or the one below, taken on an earlier date in the Oval Office? Again, very few.



“I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said, according to The Times. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off.”

"I'm not under investigation," he added.

Sources:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/10/527755991/trump-meets-with-russias-lavrov-at-the-white-house-today

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nut-job-james-comey-russia-2017-5

The polls indicating the 2024 Presidential Election currently is a dead-heat demonstrates the power of propaganda and the corrupt nature of America’s profit-driven news media. Were it otherwise, most Americans would know Trump hosted Russia’s top spies and fired America's top counter-espionage agents specializing in catching Russian spies. Putting Trump on trial as a dirty rotten spy would change the narrative, as they say.

That's where the facts led. And thanks to Aile3n Cannon that is where criminal investigations would have begun: Trump should be facing a third federal trial, answering charges of espionage on behalf of Russia. Now he's heading back into the Oval Office, a place where the Russians are most welcome.
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