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sarisataka

(21,368 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:38 AM 12 hrs ago

Come Monday will we see the beginning of the most powerful Presidency in the history of the country?

We will have a President who feels no constraint applies to him, be it legal, ethical or moral. Congress has not shown any willingness to stand up to him and taken direction even though he is not yet in office. In any case he has signaled he intends to go around them for many of his decrees. The judicial system has been generally supportive or at most given only tepid resistance. When push has come to shove, judges have backed down and capitulated rather than apply equal justice under the law.

Will it matter if the title is President, King or dictator if no one is willing to say "You cannot do that" and instead allow rule by fiat?

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Come Monday will we see the beginning of the most powerful Presidency in the history of the country? (Original Post) sarisataka 12 hrs ago OP
I'm only grateful that he's too stupid. I am worried about Elon though he's a loose canon. Walleye 12 hrs ago #1
They will be fighting in no time Blue Full Moon 11 hrs ago #9
That's another mitigating factor. All the people he appoints he wants to be fighting with each other. Walleye 11 hrs ago #11
Need to push President Musk harder, speed it up Blue Full Moon 11 hrs ago #12
Yes Walleye 11 hrs ago #13
No. He has a razor thin margin in the House and some wavering Senators. Not a mandate Bernardo de La Paz 11 hrs ago #2
He has a go around Blue Full Moon 11 hrs ago #10
Yes, he will try. But expect litigation against it. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 11 hrs ago #14
He's not legitimately the President. TommyT139 11 hrs ago #3
That may be true but sarisataka 8 hrs ago #15
Sure, but their cowardice doesn't change my opinion. TommyT139 5 hrs ago #16
As your final sentence implies, I'm not thinking of this as Mike 03 11 hrs ago #4
"...we will see the beginning of the most powerful presidency....." AltairIV 11 hrs ago #5
We will be living under a dictator, aided by thugs in Congress, protected by a corrupt high court dalton99a 11 hrs ago #6
The next year or two will be critical newdeal2 11 hrs ago #7
Not exactly a presidency, going by what TSF's said and done so far 0rganism 11 hrs ago #8
Hey, Kamala told the people "Democracy versus Dictatorship" Blue_Tires 5 hrs ago #17

Walleye

(36,898 posts)
1. I'm only grateful that he's too stupid. I am worried about Elon though he's a loose canon.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:43 AM
12 hrs ago

I think if the Democrats win the midterms, Trump will quit. Because he won’t be able to lord it over people anymore and he’ll be 80 years old.

Walleye

(36,898 posts)
11. That's another mitigating factor. All the people he appoints he wants to be fighting with each other.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:28 PM
11 hrs ago

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,829 posts)
2. No. He has a razor thin margin in the House and some wavering Senators. Not a mandate
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:54 AM
11 hrs ago

But he will pretend he has a mandate.

He has less power than he projects. Don't buy into his projection.

TommyT139

(806 posts)
3. He's not legitimately the President.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:54 AM
11 hrs ago

Russia helped him cheat the first time, and this time he was barred because of being an insurrectionist (besides voter suppression and Lord knows what else).

He's a traitorous pretender.

sarisataka

(21,368 posts)
15. That may be true but
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:37 PM
8 hrs ago

is ultimately meaningless. Congress' refusal to bar him from office via impeachment means he will be the President

Mike 03

(17,669 posts)
4. As your final sentence implies, I'm not thinking of this as
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:54 AM
11 hrs ago

a presidency in any conventional sense of the word. I sincerely believe we have entered a new phase of American history. It will be something we've not seen before in our lifetimes in the United States. The only conceivable limits will be in the courts, and they vary greatly as to quality, with the Department of Justice and SCOTUS seemingly prepared to grant most of his wishes.

AltairIV

(705 posts)
5. "...we will see the beginning of the most powerful presidency....."
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:01 PM
11 hrs ago

Let me fix that for you "...we will see the beginning of the most corrupt, inept presidency..."

dalton99a

(85,246 posts)
6. We will be living under a dictator, aided by thugs in Congress, protected by a corrupt high court
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:05 PM
11 hrs ago

newdeal2

(1,230 posts)
7. The next year or two will be critical
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:07 PM
11 hrs ago

If we can slow him down or get some wins and take back the House, I think he loses his power or importance. He can still do a lot of damage but he will be a lame duck and maybe he will just get bored of the job.

0rganism

(24,806 posts)
8. Not exactly a presidency, going by what TSF's said and done so far
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:19 PM
11 hrs ago

Something clumsier and crueller than a presidency, like a dictatorship stirred together with a S&M circus sideshow. Like one of the awful weird Caesars crossed with professional wrestling probably.

It will be... different.

Blue_Tires

(57,396 posts)
17. Hey, Kamala told the people "Democracy versus Dictatorship"
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:49 PM
5 hrs ago

And the people choose dictatorship...

I don't even want to know my fellow Americans anymore. I wish I could disown them like Michael did to Fredo in the boathouse 😔

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