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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(120,044 posts)
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:22 PM Jan 16

House Republicans take first step in mass deportation scheme

Donald Trump’s Deputy Policy Chief and spokesman for "Hair in a can", Stephen Miller, met Wednesday with members of the House Republican Study Committee to begin planning for the mass deportation of immigrants.

“He talked about how the cost of immigration is costing this country and he used the example of if an illegal has four children they have the same rights and privileges to the gimmes that Americans do, health care, education, all of that,” Rep. Ralph Norman, Republican of South Carolina, told the Daily Beast.

Miller reportedly told the attendees to determine the funding needed to carry out Trump’s deportation plan, which they are expected to include in a reconciliation bill that requires a simple majority to pass through Congress. This would allow the party to secure funding for mass deportations without any Democratic support, as long as there aren’t many defectors within the slim Republican majorities in Congress.

While the GOP reconciliation bill will include tax cuts for the wealthy and draconian changes to immigration policy, the reconciliation process was originally used under Democratic administrations for more progressive policy items. Under President Barack Obama, reconciliation was used to pass health care reform in the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). Under President Joe Biden, it was used to pass the American Rescue Plan and the Inflation Reduction Act.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1/16/2297254/-House-Republicans-take-first-step-in-mass-deportation-scheme

It would be a bitch if you guys couldn't pass that budget.

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House Republicans take first step in mass deportation scheme (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 16 OP
Great and serious post. But can't stop laughing at "hair in a can". nt allegorical oracle Jan 16 #1
That wasn't on the original article Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 16 #2
Figured that. It was superb. nt allegorical oracle Jan 16 #3
Yup I'm going to be using that one proud patriot Jan 17 #26
"the gimmes"? choie Jan 16 #4
That jumped out at me as well. Solly Mack Jan 16 #6
What are the billionaires' tax cuts, if not "the gimmies"? Time to cut Congress's health insurance & pensions, I'd say. LaMouffette Jan 17 #9
I'd love to see some more detail on the "gimmes" that American's are receiving from the Government. Hugin Jan 16 #5
Cut the crap Steve, give them the blueprints. speak easy Jan 16 #7
This picture froze my heart. BonnieJW Jan 17 #8
I'm sorry. speak easy Jan 17 #19
And will the South Carolina Republican Congressman Ralph Norman be there to pick the peaches? Botany Jan 17 #10
"...the GOP reconciliation bill will include tax cuts..." Grins Jan 17 #11
So...they object to all the christian values behind previous immigrant policies. Karadeniz Jan 17 #12
The things NAZI Stephen Miller thinks about. Kid Berwyn Jan 17 #13
Yeah, I kinda' agree. Them immagrents come here, get rich, don't like to pay taxes and ... chouchou Jan 17 #14
Many people said mass deportations would never actually happen because that would be too expensive. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 17 #15
Why do you think DENVERPOPS Jan 17 #30
Wait wait wait - 4catsmom Jan 17 #16
Greedy pigs gonna grift orangecrush Jan 17 #17
I'd rather just deport Steven Miller. Nothing of value would be lost there. Initech Jan 17 #18
Give me 100k illegal immigrants to one nazi miller and we would be much better off! PortTack Jan 17 #25
Let's see you empty out Texas first...oh wait,their economy would crash to the ground Bengus81 Jan 17 #20
The ACA was NOT passed through reconciliation. W_HAMILTON Jan 17 #21
These people are pure fucking evil. I'm seriously dreading what's going to happen. Initech Jan 17 #22
And then watch the price of goods go sky high sakabatou Jan 17 #23
Pure racist assholes SpankMe Jan 17 #24
Didn't Latinos vote big for Donnie? 🧐 Blue_Tires Jan 17 #27
Remember when Biden crafted that border security bill Blue_Tires Jan 17 #28
How much shit can they lard into that Reconciliation bill? WestMichRad Jan 17 #29
Let's use Texas and Florida as test states. For one year. Then analyze their economies. mjvpi Jan 17 #31
Rep. Norman (R) refers to American rights as "gimmes." That's telling. Beartracks Jan 18 #32

proud patriot

(101,677 posts)
26. Yup I'm going to be using that one
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:48 PM
Jan 17

John Fugelsang says to fight them with mockery and humor .

Stephen (hair in a can) Miller is priceless

LaMouffette

(2,456 posts)
9. What are the billionaires' tax cuts, if not "the gimmies"? Time to cut Congress's health insurance & pensions, I'd say.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:43 AM
Jan 17

Hugin

(35,830 posts)
5. I'd love to see some more detail on the "gimmes" that American's are receiving from the Government.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:53 PM
Jan 16

Especially, the health care.

Don't they have to give it to us before they take it away from the immigrants?

speak easy

(11,270 posts)
19. I'm sorry.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:13 PM
Jan 17

I couldn't stop the nightmares when I was a kid. I have to force myself from pushing it all out of mind today. Sometimes I resort to Borat humor.

Grins

(8,120 posts)
11. "...the GOP reconciliation bill will include tax cuts..."
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:13 AM
Jan 17

From the same people who bitch about the debt. Because to Republicans - Tax cuts are "Magic Beans™!"

Kid Berwyn

(19,473 posts)
13. The things NAZI Stephen Miller thinks about.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:24 AM
Jan 17
Deceiving the Public

The Nazis frequently used propaganda to disguise their political aims and deceive the German and international public. They depicted Germany as the victim of Allied and Jewish aggression to hide their true ideological goals and to justify war and violence against innocent civilians.

-- Holocaust Encyclopedia

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/deceiving-the-public

chouchou

(1,667 posts)
14. Yeah, I kinda' agree. Them immagrents come here, get rich, don't like to pay taxes and ...
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 11:50 AM
Jan 17

...then make cars that look like dumpsters and some of them catch fire.

Frank D. Lincoln

(894 posts)
15. Many people said mass deportations would never actually happen because that would be too expensive.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:00 PM
Jan 17

Look at where we are now.

Many people also thought mass deportations would never actually happen because of how dependent we are on undocumented immigrants to provide much needed labor on our farms, in construction, etc.

Look at where we are now.

Furthermore, many people thought mass deportations would never actually happen because the sudden loss of all of those workers would sharply drive up prices, lead to higher inflation, and possibly crash the economy.

Look at where we are now.

The key questions involve scale. Will the Trump administration deport relatively few undocumented immigrants just for show (to appear to be delivering on a campaign promise to Trump's base)? Or will they go huge and mass deport 10+ million undocumented immigrants (with many legal U.S. citizens caught up in that net)?

If it's the latter, then this is really about race. This would be the opening salvo of their war against people of color.

DENVERPOPS

(11,266 posts)
30. Why do you think
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:52 PM
Jan 17

The RepubliCONs are trying to EXTEND Trump's previous Trillion Dollar Tax given exclusively to the top 1%, and, in addition, also pass a NEW FOUR BILLION dollar ADDITION to the National debt limit, for them to use starting in a few days............

We had best post guards around Fort Knox before they exchange the Gold for all phony Crypto currency......

Bengus81

(8,306 posts)
20. Let's see you empty out Texas first...oh wait,their economy would crash to the ground
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:42 PM
Jan 17

and construction projects would grind to a halt.

GO FOR IT PUKES!!

W_HAMILTON

(8,787 posts)
21. The ACA was NOT passed through reconciliation.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:47 PM
Jan 17
It was passed in the Senate under regular order, by a vote of 60-39 on December 24, 2009. Later, after Democrats lost their supermajority in the Senate, the House passed the Senate bill and then passed a second bill that implemented a few modest increases to subsidy levels and taxes. None of them were critical to the overall bill, but the Senate agreed to support these changes. These small, nonessential adjustments are the only part of Obamacare that was passed via reconciliation.


Taken from: https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/obamacare-was-not-passed-reconciliation/

SpankMe

(3,399 posts)
24. Pure racist assholes
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:57 PM
Jan 17

I remain unconvinced that illegal immigration - the presence of out-of-status people - is a real problem in the US. There is no evidence that these people are displacing US citizens for jobs in any significant way. There is no evidence that we are being "overrun". There is evidence that out-of-status immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than US citizens. There is ample evidence that these people fill a critical need for labor in areas that US persons decline to take on. There is data showing that deportations under Democratic presidents has been higher than deportations under Republican presidents, but we don't get "credit" for that by Republicans. There is data showing that the taxes that out-of-status people pay are greater than the cost of deporting them.

On top of all this, there is ample evidence and actual occurrences of the inhumanity of accelerated or increased deportation programs (I'm thinking substandard accommodations (i.e., "prison camps" ) and child separations).

We've brought large categorizations of laborers under some sort of legal status. We've given dreamers, and people who came as infants, a form of legal status. There are other categories in which we've conferred some sort of legal status on may immigrants. This leaves very few left who are eligible for deportation. We should focus on this smaller subgroup - which is what ICE has been focusing on, up t this point - and not talk of "mass deportations".

These Republicans can just eat my ass.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
27. Didn't Latinos vote big for Donnie? 🧐
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:51 PM
Jan 17

Did they think voting for Donnie would somehow "spare" them? Or were they just that opposed to a black woman running the country?

Make it make sense...

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
28. Remember when Biden crafted that border security bill
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:19 PM
Jan 17

Which had wide bipartisan support and Donnie ordered Johnson to kill it so he'd "have an issue to run on"? And Johnson was so fucking stupid he openly admitted as much during a press conference?

Remember how fast that news story fell down the memory hole?

Remember how the media had normalized Donnie's fucking lawlessness and low-rent Mafia for so long to the point there wasn't even any outrage or scandal over the revelation that Donald Trump was essentially serving as a shadow Speaker of the House and had been directly controlling Johnson's every move?

This was just 8 months ago, folks...

WestMichRad

(2,122 posts)
29. How much shit can they lard into that Reconciliation bill?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:35 PM
Jan 17

They’ll shoot for the moon, I’m sure. Hopefully either of the two congressional Parlimentarians will put the brakes on a lot of it. Provisions in the reconciliation bill are supposed to directly relate to the main purpose of the bill.

Beartracks

(13,785 posts)
32. Rep. Norman (R) refers to American rights as "gimmes." That's telling.
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 05:16 PM
Jan 18

Republicans don't even like it when citizens receive benefits, much less non-citizens. Weirdly, he even includes health care in his definition of "gimmes" -- something Republicans fight tooth and nail to specifically PREVENT from being available as a right to all Americans.

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