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WarGamer

(16,052 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 01:40 PM Jan 15

Just MY observation... YMMV. Is Trump! Trump! Trump! rebuilding the DEM Party for 26 and 28?

It seems some people forget a few things.

1) Trump won the election.

2) Trump isn't running again.

3) Attacks and throwing shade at Trump in 24 didn't work.

But all I see every day is Trump this, Trump that... as if people think that just a little more dirt will get Kamala elected... or put Trump in jail for good so he's not running any more.

This isn't the summer of 24. That's history.

And even worse?

So much post-mortem analysis of the election is basically "Voters suck, they're dumb and let's double down on what got us here"

While I agree that there must be a constant drumbeat of "resistance" where possible... to slow their executive and legislative tide...

I think it must be balanced with reform in the Party.

Stats don't lie.

The Party TODAY is different from the Party in 2008.

It's VASTLY different than the Party in 1992.

The Party is vastly more wealthy, educated and globally... neoconservative.

We've taken for granted that Jack the Welder, Jose the pipe fitter and Mary the hairdresser will automatically vote for DEMS while we make efforts to court Billionaires, suburban GOP'ers and the politically displaced like Liz Cheney and Bill Kristol.

To summarize... so much of what we see today is shouting at clouds...

You want change? Then win elections. Figure it out.

My solution? Go back in time.



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Just MY observation... YMMV. Is Trump! Trump! Trump! rebuilding the DEM Party for 26 and 28? (Original Post) WarGamer Jan 15 OP
Maybe you could expand on your post & tell us what you mean by go back in time. -nt CrispyQ Jan 15 #1
Go back to our working class roots. Lunabell Jan 15 #2
When did those working class roots ever exist? tenderfoot Jan 15 #5
The old Democratic party. FDR and the New Deal. Lunabell Jan 15 #7
Some people! What could you possibly mean? FSogol Jan 15 #3
Getting a little wary when it comes to winning elections to be honest ck4829 Jan 15 #4
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 15 #6
I'm glad you posted this WarGamer Just_Vote_Dem Jan 15 #8
Interesting ck4829 Jan 17 #9

Lunabell

(7,211 posts)
2. Go back to our working class roots.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 01:48 PM
Jan 15

But minus the racism that now belongs to the Republicans. No More neoliberalism. No More corporatists.

 

tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
5. When did those working class roots ever exist?
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 01:54 PM
Jan 15

When was America ever what it claims to be?

Lunabell

(7,211 posts)
7. The old Democratic party. FDR and the New Deal.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 01:58 PM
Jan 15

But, like I said, without the racism that now belongs to the republicans. It's history.

ck4829

(36,459 posts)
4. Getting a little wary when it comes to winning elections to be honest
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 01:52 PM
Jan 15

If getting elected just means mopping up Republican messes and Republicans complain that we're not mopping up their messes fast enough and then get elected using the the whole industrialized system they have engineered that turns complaining about us into a winning strategy for them, and the cycle continues on and on, then winning elections becomes kind of meaningless.

I've cleaned up enough sewage spills in my life... literally and politically. I'm done with that.

H2O Man

(76,046 posts)
6. Recommended.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 01:55 PM
Jan 15

I have no idea why someone "alerted" on this OP. But I voted that it clearly did not bend any rules. I think it is spot on.

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,206 posts)
8. I'm glad you posted this WarGamer
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 05:58 PM
Jan 15

A while back you posted something like this but you deleted it before I could respond.

We must get away from reflexively bringing up Trump all the time and instead show how we can best lead the country-and maybe mention "working poor" as much as we mention the "middle class". JMO.

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