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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmerica DID NOT vote for Trump
Last edited Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:57 PM - Edit history (1)
He "won" an election - assuming all those votes are real. That doesn't have anything to do with having widespread American support. Voter participation is abysmal in the US. We make it a point to make the 90% stand in long lines. 2020 proved if we make it easier to vote, more people will. The added tends to go Democratic.
340 million Americans. Trump had 74 million votes. That comes out in the neighborhood of 20%.
250 million Americans over 18 could register and vote if they wanted to. 74 million voted for Trump. That still comes out to well under 30% of American cared enough to go vote for Trump.
There is no mandate. 70% of the American public who did not sign up for it, will be subject to the whims of a maniac. It seems to me the goal for the next 4 years is how to reach all those people. Get them registered, get them informed, get them to the polls. We can't reach them all. We just need to reach enough.
Ocelot II
(120,593 posts)and by failing to vote they effectively voted for Trump since they could have voted for the alternative but didn't. So, sorry, but America did vote for Trump, and fuck us for doing it.
TheKentuckian
(25,996 posts)and it is their own fault in most cases.
HUAJIAO
(2,573 posts)How do you figure that?
KentuckyWoman
(6,875 posts)US Census had the American population over 18 yr old for 2020 at 258 million.
HUAJIAO
(2,573 posts)But there aren't even a TOTAL of 250 million Americans under 18. And under 18 you cannot vote...
KentuckyWoman
(6,875 posts)HUAJIAO
(2,573 posts)Zeitghost
(4,470 posts)The American people never voted for Biden, Obama, Clinton or any other President to have ever served.
We had the second largest turnout of all time and we lost across the board. We lost ground in almost every state and amongst almost every demographic group. We need to address why that was and stop making these stupid pointless arguments and engaging in pitiful election denial.
KentuckyWoman
(6,875 posts)2 parties squabble over the same group of American who will go vote. The majority of Americans aren't voting at all. It seems to me expanding participation should be part of the conversation in moving forward.
Judging by the instant response to my post... DU doesn't agree. And that's OK.
leftstreet
(36,255 posts)A percentage of Americans did
But when people say "Americans chose this..." that's not true.
We can't really say what almost half of Americans would choose
notroot
(230 posts)MrWowWow
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At least not one that's free, fair and open. It's naive to believe that there will be. Maybe in the next decade. Maybe...
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"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. Were no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. Its simply too painful to acknowledgeeven to ourselvesthat weve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."
-Dr. Carl Sagan
lees1975
(5,873 posts)Jack Valentino
(1,244 posts)It might not be decided with 'ballots'.
BigMin28
(1,408 posts)Is he won, by hook or crook is beside the point. Even if we find overwhelming evidence of the vote being tampered with, in our current environment, nothing would change. He and the GOP will never suffer iany consequences in America. History proves me right.
Igel
(36,038 posts)Not sure that's what you want to argue--I rather doubt it, actually--but one follows ineluctably from the other.
oasis
(51,644 posts)No amount of sugarcoating is going to change that.
Meowmee
(5,285 posts)Yes they did vote for him and he won. Also it does not matter imo, why they voted for him in terms of the effect of electing him.
Fish700
(51 posts)Du916
(9 posts)Those who did not vote as much as voted through inaction. The majority of American voters elected Trump. The fact is that America is no better than any other third-world country, and is populated by vast numbers of morons, racists and misogynists.
Jack Valentino
(1,244 posts)cast a ballot. Seems close to 50-50 this year, but I haven't researched the numbers exactly.
Clearly those voting for Trump would have been no more than 30%, probably closer to 25%