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Doodley

(10,270 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:31 AM Saturday

Prof. Alex Halderman: Hacking the Vote: It's Easier Than You Think. Attacks can spread from machine to machine.

“We’ve created attacks that can spread from machine to machine like a computer virus and silently change election outcomes,” Halderman continued. “We studied touch screens and optical scan systems.” Then, emphasizing each next word with a staccato delivery and direct eye contact, he stated: “And in every single case, we found ways for attackers to sabotage machines and to steal votes. These capabilities are certainly within reach for America’s enemies.”

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The only reason there’s no evidence of whether voting machines or vote tabulating equipment was hacked in the 2016 presidential election, Halderman insists, is because nobody allowed him or anyone else to check. This is the core of his advocacy regarding electronic voting machines and vote tabulators: He loves technology and believes it can improve lives, but he also urges extra caution when it comes to a process as important as selecting leaders.

https://alumni.umich.edu/michigan-alum/hacking-the-vote/


In a recent Georgia trial, an expert in voting systems testified that Dominion Voting Systems machines were alarmingly susceptible to hacking. According to coverage by Law360 Pulse, the expert, Professor J. Alex Halderman from the University of Michigan, demonstrated how he could use a Bic pen and a smart card to easily copy, edit, and change votes within seconds.

This testimony took place in an Atlanta trial related to a case filed in 2017 against the state of Georgia. The Coalition for Good Governance, a liberal activist group, originally filed the suit, asserting that the state’s use of touch-screen computers for voting, without a verifiable print ballot, made the voting counts vulnerable to manipulation.

https://www.wdbo.com/news/computer-expert-hacks-dominion-voting-machine-front-judge-changes-votes-with-bic-pen/EM5Q4XKDARGPPC7Z6MTUWSOYSA/

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Prof. Alex Halderman: Hacking the Vote: It's Easier Than You Think. Attacks can spread from machine to machine. (Original Post) Doodley Saturday OP
This should be front page news... 2naSalit Saturday #1
Tarrant County uses touchscreens, but we receive a blank paper ballot MagickMuffin Saturday #2
Yes, but if nobody checks whether these scanners counted the votes correctly, how would we know? LisaL Saturday #5
So does this mean that there might have been something meritorious in Trump's claims? onenote Saturday #3
Both these arguments are from before 2020, so yes, these are the arguments Trump made 4 years ago muriel_volestrangler Saturday #7
This point needs to be made Dem4life1234 Saturday #4
Exit polls are rough checks on actual votes. DemocratSinceBirth Saturday #6

2naSalit

(92,451 posts)
1. This should be front page news...
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 09:29 AM
Saturday

I am not willing to accept the election results as currently reported, concession or not.

MagickMuffin

(17,075 posts)
2. Tarrant County uses touchscreens, but we receive a blank paper ballot
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:31 AM
Saturday


Its feed through the machine, touch all the candidates you support, and press the submit button, the ballot runs through the machine, you can check your ballot to ensure you voted correctly, then it is fed into the tabulator machine to count your votes. A flag will wave at you indicating your ballot was processed.


LisaL

(46,579 posts)
5. Yes, but if nobody checks whether these scanners counted the votes correctly, how would we know?
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:37 AM
Saturday

But the main weapon Republicans are using to get the desired outcomes is voter suppression. We have to win by a large margin to overcome that, and that didn't happen.

onenote

(44,454 posts)
3. So does this mean that there might have been something meritorious in Trump's claims?
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:33 AM
Saturday

I'm being sarcastic, but it seems like folks are glomming onto the same sorts of arguments that we all ridiculed when Trump made them.

For example, I've seen it suggested that its suspicious that Harris lost states with Democratic governors. Well, Trump lost a couple of states with Republican governors. So it seems like an odd fact to claim as proof of fraud.

muriel_volestrangler

(102,411 posts)
7. Both these arguments are from before 2020, so yes, these are the arguments Trump made 4 years ago
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:48 AM
Saturday

But like Eastasia and Eurasia, the sides that benefit or lose from the "vote hacking" can suddenly change, and then people scramble to readjust their own opinions on if hacking is a major problem.

Dem4life1234

(1,457 posts)
4. This point needs to be made
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:34 AM
Saturday

I don't know anyone who supports that thug.



They want us to shut up about it, but we will not. I will never accept these results. There is a rogue entity trying to destroy this country.

DemocratSinceBirth

(100,134 posts)
6. Exit polls are rough checks on actual votes.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:38 AM
Saturday

If there was evil afoot we would have seen large discrepancies between exit polls and actual results but we didn't.
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