In case people missed it - California shifted to the right as well

[Sympthsical]

Of course, we're unlikely to elect Republicans statewide any time soon and whew for that. But if anyone thinks voters turning off from the Democratic Party was some singular swing state phenomenon, and the diminished margins in other blue states like Illinois aren't convincing enough, take a look at what our political totem managed this week.

San Francisco dumped London Breed as mayor in favor of a moderate Democrat who made crime, drugs, and homelessness central to his platform. He also targeted and listened to the AAPI community which has been furious with our party for being ignored, particularly when they were under attack during the pandemic.

Alameda County - this is Berkeley and Oakland, people - tossed their DA by 30 points for being soft on crime (Pamela Price was a shitshow from the word go). When Berkeley calls you out for being out of touch . . .

George Gascon, another DA with a progressive approach to crime, lost his re-election bid by 22 points. (Anyone seeing a theme with these California DA's getting canned?)

Prop 36, which was vigorously opposed by Gov. Newsom and would increase penalties for shoplifting and certain drug offenses, is passing with the flyingest of colors at 70%.

As of this writing (California takes forever to count votes), Trump is up 5% in the popular vote over his 2020 totals.

I understand self-reflection can be a difficult thing when it requires admitting error. People's egos get involved, and it's not like we aren't all familiar with the "It's not me, it's you!" toxicity in relationships we cannot bug out of fast enough.

But if California - which is Harris' home state - going, "You know, this isn't great . . ." isn't even resulting in an eyebrow raise and prompting some soul searching and course changing, just what will? We just got shouted at by voters across the country, including in enclaves overwhelmingly populated by liberals, and the response simply cannot be "We're clearly not plugging our ears hard enough."

Which I have seen way too much of this week. Do people actually want to win elections, or is being bitter on social media just too much fun? Because I'd like a Blue Wave to materialize at some point. The sooner the better. But we don't get there with denial about what happened during this election.

Doubling down on failure isn't my recipe for success. Maybe I'm missing something, tho.

[jimfields33]

1. I totally understand what you are saying.

However, I’d like to see how the five house seats turn out before pressing the fire alarm.

I do understand the AG and mayor situation which is local and especially San Francisco which has been newsworthy for almost two years.

[Sympthsical]

2. I'm still watching those races as well

Of course various races will include local factors. There were a few cases in Alameda that doomed Price, but her whole attitude and approach in the face of them really pinned down what her rhetoric was going to be in practice.

But Prop 36's success, given that it is statewide and our governor opposed it, feels like a pretty far-ranging push back against crime and drug policies promoted by the party in recent years. Its success aligns with local results we're seeing in deep blue areas.

There's definitely a sense of "We've had it." I know my county, which is 2/3 Democrat, discusses quality of life decline non-stop. Fortunately, because this is California, people getting fed up doesn't automatically translate into Republican wins.

I'm not pulling the fire alarm over the state any time soon. I just wanted to illustrate that what happened on Tuesday was truly national in scope, and that there is enough in all this that should be telling us that we need a rethink.

People are saying, "It just happened, give it time." But narratives get formed quickly. We're already seeing a lot of, "We're fine. It's just some Rogan bros and Latino machismo..." forming. And this has been happening a lot over the past ten years when we lose. "We're not wrong. It's the voters who are wrong." Or "Some heretofore unseen voting situation no one could have predicted happened!" ignoring the fact people have been shouting to the rafters about some of this stuff for ages.

That thinking just kills us, and that narrative needs to be dead in its crib this time around if we'd like to reverse trends.

[jimfields33]

3. It's definitely difficult to look in the mirror.

I’d say that what some of the leaders who thought it was ok for a group of people to go into a store, trash and loot the place and have zero accountability was absolutely the dumbest decision I’ve ever witnessed. Seeing how much homeless population exploded across the country and at the same time have migrants increase in vast numbers without plans was not exactly leadership material either.
I can see why some said, “Enough until we can regroup and see how to fix this.”

[Sympthsical]

10. Amen

[Demovictory9]

12. Dems realized they needed to pull back. Newsome realized that program to help undocs buy a house

Was a step too far (appearance wise) and vetoed it..but I wouldn't have been surprised if he signed it if other wasn't California running for prez.

And the other veto..take the position that undocumented people were eligible for University of California jobs.

[Silent Type]

54. Bill Maher, who we detest, said last night something like, "Who had the idea to lock up everything in a drug store.

Howsabout locking up the people who steal."

Now, I have a lot of empathy for poor people who are forced to steal to live and think we need more social programs to prevent that. But, that was a dumb idea.

Also, I don't think people cared that stats show crime is down. Like the economy, they just don't feel it. [Personally, my biggest crime fear is white wingers who rip off people, but that's another story.]

[Ysabel]

57. yeah, I'm mostly scared of right wing white men...

more than anything else but the majority of men scare me too not just repukes so many men are so touchy and feel threatened by women (it seems to me) even Democrat men and Greens and I'm just a little old woman how am I a threat to any of them / makes no sense to me except thinking that most of them just remember deep down that their moms were in charge of them totally when they were young and so they felt the need to rebel and it must be a real strong need to affect so many of them in such a way that so many of them vote against us women and it really hurts a lot esp. since so many of us nurtured so many of them that they'd hate us so much is almost unfathomable...

[Jk23]

39. I mean it wasn't that long ago California voted for Republican Statewide

I was really surprised that Harris didn't support that proposition instead of taking a no opinion point of view.

She was naturally a Law and Order candidate and it's extremely popular point of view not just in California right now I really thought she should have leaned into it more.

[JI7]

7. And when you bring up punishing these thugs people will reply

some bs about how about punishing the banks, corporations, oligarchs etc that are stealing from us.

[JI7]

5. We should be tough on crime, illegal immigration, and concern those shitty "protests"

like those claiming to be concerned over Gaza now happy they don't have to worry about their son wearing a dress. Most of the people that benefit from these things hate liberals.

The far left is not liberal. The democratic party is liberal. We believe in equal rights and opportunity for All. Some need more assistance and we can make sure we have a support system for them. Those who fall on hard times can also take advantage of.

I am from california and in a liberal area. Everyone supports things like being pro environment, fighting bigotry, and celebrating diversity. But we also do not like the thugs that are stealing from stores. The homeless that refuse to get off the streets and there ARE many who like the lifestyle.

A lot of things the right wing says is bs and exaggerated but it's easy to do when we have clowns that focus on bs over important matters.

[phoenix_rising]

25. Honest question

I’m genuinely curious – is there evidence or research showing that some people actually prefer being homeless and living on the streets? I know that many do not want to go to homeless shelters for a myriad of reasons, but perhaps that wasnt what you were talking about. I would love to hear your perspective.

[JI7]

6. And the thing is our national candidates usually don't even support

some of this shit but we have had people attacking them for having supported tough of crime bills.

I can't stand the the anti liberal far left . dissociate from these people and we will see an improvement

Josh Shapiro has 58 percent approval numbers in Pennsylvania. But we had people attacking him for certain reasons. It's fine if you prefer someone else but the way people trashed this guy shows the disconnection.

[Sympthsical]

9. Harris was actually asked about Prop 36

You'd think she'd have a position on an important election issue in her home state.

She declined to answer.

Maybe she didn't want to highlight some of the issues some on our side have had about her time as DA, but it might have been a sign that there was a potential disconnect between the campaign and Democratic enthusiasm.

I expected many of the results in California that we're seeing, but I am surprised by some of the margins. Sometimes we get in this area where we know the Democrat's going to win the election no matter what, so it doesn't matter too much what we think or how we vote. My ballot practically fills out itself most of the time where I live in the Bay Area.

And sometimes, despite that, people reach a point where they are going to send a message. This election feels like one of those instances.

[JI7]

13. I know most of the complaints from black men

were accusing her of locking up black men. Most of these were loser criminals who should have been locked up. And they are huge misogynists alsoi. This is different from the issue of innocent black men being targeted which is a serious matter. But people start to connect these issues and then play "I am more pure and left" game. We saw the same shit with the anti Israel protests which were pretty much pro Hamas.

My personal opinion is that we feel the need to publicly protest and want to show what we are more than actually just doing. I also don't know why some feel the need to show up against right wing idiots in public sometimes. I also question whether these people actually vote.

[Demovictory9]

11. Not surprised by the results..the shoplifting surge and the street takovers

Street takeovers are a relatively new thing..Last 5 years maybe?

Shoplifting out in the open, people just walking out of the store with basketball of stuff

[Sympthsical]

14. I live just up 80 from Vallejo

And the street takeovers are such an odd phenomenon. It feels like every week I see new video of a takeover specifically from Vallejo for some reason.

[Demovictory9]

16. Street takeovers were formerly concentrated in certain areas but this was a few miles from me

A hellacious takeover on a major OC street. This street isn't far from CSUF, Disneyland Angel stadium

[exboyfil]

15. And we are watching in the rest of the country

You summarized it quite well.

[bottomofthehill]

17. Shift to the right or shift to the center.

I love it here but, for the most part we are the left fringe of a left party. The country has shifted to center right and many think the solution is to look further left. We lost votes in 48 of 50 states. I am pretty sure looking at the exit polls that it was not because we were not progressive enough. There are core beliefs that should never be abandoned, but there are times that a good thing can go too far. People need to feel safe. We did not project that safety and it cost us.

[oasis]

18. +1

[Sympthsical]

19. Point taken

But this is California. If I express puzzlement at quinoa, people will ask when I started supporting Trump.

Jokes aside, I agree. I never could stand Dennis Miller in any iteration, but one time I caught him saying, "The problem is [the elites] think common sense is common." And that put me in the mind of Orwell. "One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that; no ordinary man could be such a fool."

That's been in my mind watching some of California's crime policies. "Hey, what if we just stopped prosecuting crimes? Then no one would have to go to jail! Everyone wins!" And it's like . . . they didn't see the obvious results there? No prosecutions invite more crime which devolves quality of life which leads to more crime which leads to . . .

That one is like baseline common sense.

And some people couldn't manage it. Stretch that sort of thing across an array of issues, and eventually the normies will start tapping out. Yes, even the liberal ones.

[Demovictory9]

20. A guy scooped up merchandise and walked out of california store in front of a journalist

When questioned, the shoplifter replied " it's California"

And stores are closing or having the merchandise all locked up.

It had gotten that bad.

[Sympthsical]

22. I've told this story before

But at my local Safeway, there was a guy who would come in weekly. He'd grab a cart, put in two cases of beer, and walk out. The employees were instructed not to stop him (for liability reasons) and the police wouldn't arrive before he left.

So he just kept doing it. And everyone knew what was happening when he arrived. Then it started snowballing.

But let me tell you, the second an armed robbery happened at the Chase atm near that Safeway, my neighbors went ballistic. These are the affluent suburbanite portion of the city. They had the chief of police standing in a Costco parking lot at night in the windy cold while they screamed their heads off at him.

And then a police substation was installed across from Safeway, and that was that.

People have their breaking points.

[Demovictory9]

31. At a store near me, the middle class people watched someone walk out with a full basket and wondered..

" why are we paying?" 😆

[bottomofthehill]

58. Not only why are we paying but

We are paying more because they are walking out the door with out paying.

[joshcryer]

43. Devoting 20% of your media to 0.5% to 1% of the population...

...was a bad move.

[Jk23]

61. Don't worry the front page is filled with

Conspiracy theories of how the Trump people switched votes in New York City and California along with diatribes of how men are stupid. Hispanics are stupid. black men are stupid. young people are stupid and white women are about as evil as evil gets and they're all wrong and we're right.

I've said it once I've said it a thousand times you can't win an election if you just have the smart people voted for you

[ananda]

21. So parsing this thread out, people voted for Trump because they did not feel safe.

Wow.

The cognitive dissonance and ignorance on this issue is astounding!

Now safety will never be an issue again because there won't be any
for any aspect of life whatsoever.

People in America have been spectacularly insular and tunnel-visioned
in this election.. and the price itself for this is... safety.

[Sympthsical]

23. It's basic hierarchy of needs

What's right above biological needs to survive?

Safety and security.

If your policies result in people feeling unsafe, they will either vote to undo those policies or vote for someone else entirely.

Fortunately, this is California, so people kept that sentiment local to the state. Even with Breed and Price from above, they're being replaced with other Democrats. Gascon is being replaced by a Republican who became an independent, because he knows Republicans aren't popular in much of California.

Being mad at voters doesn't win elections.

Listening to them and having responsive policies does, tho.

[ananda]

24. I think this is more about perception than policy.

The fact is that crime is actually up in red states
and down in blue states.

The propaganda on crime and safety is what drives
vulnerable pops to feel unsafe.

The truth is that Republicans are the ones to fear
when it comes to safety... on every level.

[Sympthsical]

29. I think more granularity is required when thinking about the issue

Because when we say "crime is down, voters are misinformed" we think we have the statistics to back that up.

But we kind of do and we kind of don't. Violent crimes are down, yes. But quality of life crimes are up in California.

In California, auto theft is up 43% from 2019 levels. That's a quality of life crime, and that is a staggering increase. Other property crime rates have barely budged. Shoplifting is skyrocketing. That's a quality of life problem. People walk into a store and half the shit is under dingy plastic bins. Catalytic converter thefts - like the one that got that General Hospital actor killed - are up 50% over pre-pandemic levels. I'm out in the suburbs, and no one wants to park their cars in their driveways anymore because this stuff happens in our neighborhood now. When my partner forgets the car in the driveway overnight, I walk out in the morning almost expecting his converter to be gone, because it's happened to neighbors so many times.

So we fall into the same trap in our crime messaging that we did in our economic one. Yes, inflation has been successfully tamed. And that is a great thing. But cost increases didn't disappear. Yes, some forms of crime are down, but the kinds of crimes most people are more personally familiar with have increased or stayed the same.

So when our message is, "You're hallucinating your problems," people look around and see the high cost of goods and services or see the thefts and property damage in their neighborhoods, and they reply, "I'm not hallucinating that. I see it with my own damn eyes."

Somehow we landed on a message of "You're not experiencing what you're experiencing" because we either don't know or don't care what people are experiencing. And we've convinced each other, in our bubbles, that Americans are having mass hallucinations about what their own lives are like.

This is not a winning place to be inhabiting politically.

[NNguyenMD]

46. its not just propaganda or perception...there is visible crime

and when you tell voters that crime is down while at the same time they see their local Targets closing due to theft losses, or the In N Out closing in Oakland due to safety concerns, I am sorry to say that the national stats on crime arguments feel like gas lighting.

I am not saying that the data does not matter, but at least acknowledge that there is a problem and debate on how policy has failed that community or how policy can correct the problem.

Otherwise we are a party in denial of acknowledging the real life problems and real life experiences of our communities

[ananda]

26. I don't disagree, but perhaps narrow perceptions regarding safety...

have blinded people to the real dangers of a fascist administration
and all Republican policies everywhere, really.

This blindness has been deliberately exploited by the corporate
fascist media and establishment, which put out endless proaganda
and fear messages, nonstop, thoughout the media everywhere.

My point is that Republicans, fueled by corporate fascism, are the
real danger...

and this new fascist admin will be a huge danger for everyone, in
every way and in every aspect of life.

[Sympthsical]

30. Human nature isn't a secret

And arguing it won't ever change it.

Someone's going to care more about what's happening in their neighborhood and tangibly observable over potentials, possibilities, and policies discussed from afar.

If you see high costs at your supermarket and crime in your neighborhood, you're going to vote for whatever you think will make that go away. Our response was, "Shut up. You're not seeing those things. Now, let's bust out Janet's Guide to Fascism and start on Chapter Four."

No voter - anywhere - responds to that except for the ones you've already bagged.

[ananda]

40. Well, Republicans know how to target fear...

and blame safety issues on Democrats all right.

Now there is no safety whatsoever, anywhere,
on any level.

[jimfields33]

36. When stores leave a city in great numbers due to out right theft as has happened in the San Francisco area,

Local politicians are most likely to be shown the door. Voters will not tolerate being in a store desert due to unreasonable policies. And yes media showed it to the country because it was so astonishing that this was the result of local policies.

[ananda]

38. No issue there, never was on my part.

I've just wanted to point out that the safety
issues promoted by Republicans go much
further than that, when their policies are so
much more dangerous to the entire populace,
no one excepted.

And dangerous on every level of existence,
bar none.

[Jk23]

42. Being soft on crime is a horrible policy decision

It would be horrible if the Republicans were in favor of it it's horrible the Democrats are in favor of it.

People are naturally going to vote against things that create chaos and danger in their local areas and allowing criminals to run free in the streets is one of those things.

[dalton99a]

27. People are sick and tired of tone-deaf politicians who refuse to do their jobs

[underpants]

28. I think the progressive measures on crime were instituted too quickly

Especially from a political perspective. From a crime perspective I know that changes are needed from the former status quo but you shouldn’t overhaul a whole system at once. I know a lot of that was during COVID when smaller populations were the smarter thing to do but there are people who’ve exhibited that they don’t need to be out in public.

Virginia raised its felony threshold from $300 to $500 and that has been effective and the right thing to do.

[Sympthsical]

34. Agreed

That's the problem with pendulums, once they get to swinging with decent momentum, they can come back in ways undesired.

Because of course I think most of us want sensible criminal justice reform where people aren't locked away for years on end for incredibly minor things.

It just went too far.

And with some of these DA's getting recalled, it's a bit more than that. Pamela Price, for example, had all kinds of things to say about actual murder cases where the community just could not believe their ears. She stood on radical ideology, and an area full of liberal voters went, "Newp!"

Voters thought they were getting a somewhat amorphous "We'll be less draconian and less eager to ruin lives over nothing" and they actually got "What if By Any Means Necessary ran for office in human form?"

And that was an real easy hard pass for people.

[underpants]

41. Good local info. Thanks.

I looked her up.

Seems like this goes back to what we saw in 2016. Change is good but too much sudden change freaks people out. Then it was the hardcore Trump base and his use of Fox that got him the nomination. Either party nomination brings with it a set block of voters and well we saw what happened.

[-misanthroptimist]

32. "More to the right or left" is silly

We need to move to the effective. We need to solve problems with the tools on hand and that are consistent with the Constitution. Worrying about the ideology behind the solution is a recipe for disaster and failure.

For instance, I doubt many here think that the answers to the economic woes for the average American is to unfetter big business even more than it is . (Musk has $300b, for chissake!) This is an area we need to move to the left in a way that is going to help the average American.

Some problems require a move to the right -not to politically position ourselves- but to solve the problem. You can probably think of several yourself, in addition to those in the OP.

Solve the damned problems and people will be satisfied. They'll cease to worry about ideology. If you make their lives easier and better, they'll vote for you. We don't need to be the "left party" or the "centrist party" or the "right party." We need to be the party that "solves problems."

[Sympthsical]

33. You are absolutely correct

I chose the verbiage I did due to the space I'm writing within so it would be better understood, but your elaboration is a more precise and elegant explanation of the issue.

[mcar]

35. I've seen people saying Harris moved too much to the center

and yet the CA results seem to be a rejection of the far left and an embrace of the center.

I think this is more proof that pointing fingers and saying she should have done this or that isn't the answer.

It seems like the CA voters made smart choices.

[Sympthsical]

37. I think voters are more a la carte' than surmised

I know people use Left and Right rather lazily when tracking things (totally guilty).

But in this election, for example, we had voters approve abortion protections while still voting for Trump. When it comes to crime issues, we had voters overwhelmingly pass tougher crime laws. But it's not like Adam Schiff wasn't elected in a landslide at the same time. Harris still got 60%. We just assumed "Pro-abortion? They'll vote Democratic." Voters figured out they didn't have to make that choice.

Maybe voters are simply parsing things more. Maybe voters felt Harris was too far the Left on some issues, but ran too centrist on others. And people are piecing out the loss based on which of their bugaboos wasn't being serviced during the campaign. So you see "too left" and "too center" at the same time.

I'm kind of this voter. I vote for Democratic candidates every time, but if you start giving me choices on singular issues, DU would probably not love me much, lol. I broadly agree with Democratic policies, but some of them are definitely, "What are you thinking . . ." for me. And other voters might not draw the line at candidates the way I do.

[mcar]

47. I think you are correct, however,

I also think that too many voters were mis- and un-informed bc of the media. RW media portrayed Harris as a vacuous idiot and only offered clips of Trump's speeches. MSM normalized Trump and ignored the Biden/Harris accomplishments.

WaPo had a quiz about the issues sometime last week. No mention of party, just the issues. Of course, people overwhelmingly aligned with Democrats on the issues.

Now, in the aftermath, we are hearing about young women college students who voted for Trump because he "said" he wouldn't have a national abortion ban. Or people who voted for him bc of tariffs who are now finding out what they actually are.

In '22 here in FL, the youth vote was horribly low. Then, when DeSantis enacted his 6-week abortion ban, young women were horrified. They hadn't voted, though. They didn't see the connection.

[Sympthsical]

49. Even so, this stuff is baked in

It's like when people say "If it weren't for the electoral college . . ." Ok, sure. We would have won some more. But there is an EC, and we know that going in. So we have to tailor our strategies accordingly.

It's the same thing with the voters. This isn't our first rodeo. We know they don't pay attention. We know simpler messages connecting the dots for them work better than complicated treatises on fascism or trying to even explain what Trump was found guilty of. (Seriously, people hear 34 felonies, but the average voter has no idea what that was about).

It's like leaving the house and asking my cat to mow the lawn while I'm out. I know what's going to happen. The cat knows what's going to happen. So how much disappointment should I really be feeling there when I return to find the hedges untrimmed?

I could get mad and yell about lazy cats (to which he will reply "I try, thanks!" ). But it just feels like I lost sight of the fact that cats don't mow lawns. Voters don't consume information the same way political junkies do. They don't care about the same issues political junkies do. Their spaces are oftentimes not our own. Do we have to handhold them every. excruciating. step. of the way? Absolutely.

It has ever been thus. Humans in large groups don't do mid to long range thinking very well (see: climate change). As you said, they don't see connections. But I don't see that as insurmountable. I just think our approach is off. We're good at talking to ourselves. We're less good at talking to them.

[mcar]

50. Imagining a cat mowing the lawn...

[Jk23]

62. But that's part of the problem people don't actually watch cable news

I mean most people under 60 don't even have access to cable news outside of YouTube clips.

It's the kind of thing that when you're sitting in the that's office or the dentist's office and you realize that today show is still on it's noon and you're like how many hours is this thing for?

[mcar]

65. My 27 YO son has said many times

That his cohort is completely ignorant of what's really going on in the world.

[RJ_MacReady]

44. Democrats

Need to address this quickly, this is anecdotal but in NYC my brothers friend knows people who absolutely hated trump despised him like we do yet they voted for him because of bail reform in NYC. Then all the progressive DA's losing not only this election but the recalls. Even though crime is down overall Democrats are seen as too soft.

[JohnSJ]

45. Those propositions and races are not indicative that California is turning red. The blatant smash and rob crimes, etc.

have hurt a lot of people and business, and Democrats are not happy about it, and they voted accordingly.

As far as the SF mayor race, there were too many candidates in the race, that muddled things along with the fact that her main opponent effectively bought the election with his self-financed campaign.

That last point is the real danger, that extremely wealthy people because of their means will be effectively buying elections.

[Sympthsical]

52. I'm not saying we're turning red

Just that there was a very perceptible wobble. And a wobble for California can be a complete change in orbital path for a swing state. Our politicians can do something that loses them 20% of the electorate, and they could still eke out victories. I don't worry about that at the moment.

I'll disagree a bit on S.F. You have the particulars of the specific election correct. But I think it's the policies that opened the door to the contours of that race to begin with. It's like with Trump. We lost the working class, which left the doors wide open for authoritarian populism trample in. We didn't affirmatively bring it in, but the lack of action and attention were assistive.

San Francisco is a shitshow (sorry everyone, but I live in the Bay Area and it is). That mayoral election came with an engraved invitation for how it went down.

[Buckeyeblue]

48. I think the issue is really a Biden problem

Before I elaborate, I think Biden has been effective. He got saddled with an inflation issue that was not his fault. But I think it was effectively dealt with.

But...Biden is no longer able to be Biden. He is physically diminished. He no longer speaks well. He miss-speaks more. Is painful watching him walk. I'm sure he thinks sharply. But the public doesn't get to see that.

So because Biden is no longer able to be Biden, he hasn't been able to effectively explain to the people what is going on and what he is doing. Plain and simple. Joe Biden's strength has always been his empathy and his ability to be the everyman type person. But he's lost that. Sadly.

Harris wasn't able to articulate her vision for the country. Nor did she address the problems people are facing with acknowledgement, empathy and a clear path forward.

[Dem4life1234]

56. I absolutely disagree on the last part about Kamala

She came off as warm and relatable and I thought she articulated her vision well, it's just that the mainstream kept sane washing the raping felon.

Her campaign was short, but under no circumstances is Kamala to blame for any of this, she was damn near perfect.

It's not easy sending a message when the mainstream is against you in the first place!

[Quixote1818]

51. Did it or did Democrats stay home more than Republicans because Harris was courting Republicans? nt

[bucolic_frolic]

53. Nice to know crime is becoming unpopular, if your creds aren't a 10 year crime spree.

Make your lies and crimes bold, people. You too could start a media empire.

[DSandra]

55. The image of progressives have certainly been smeared in the last four years

So much for putting things that are popular and effective. No matter what you want, if the property owners don't like it, they will fail as they are the most powerful voting blocs in any democracy.

[Jk23]

64. Homeowners are majority in this country

It's around 65% of the population and they vote. That's something we need to keep in mind.

[DBoon]

59. So what about Proporition 6?

Is continuing to allow involuntary servitude for incarcerated persons somehow going to reduce crime?

[Prairie Gates]

60. Constantly lecturing people on one's own side under the guise of self-criticism

also seems to be a fun activity, in my various observations.

[alarimer]

63. So did Maryland

Not that Democrats lost any races because of it, but Trump made inroads here.