My only question is:

[relayerbob]

How long before Vance/Thiel oust Trump and complete their coup? He's a liability to them starting Jan 20, too erratic and irrational. Vance is evil, but not stupid, as is Thiel. They want 100% power and Trump will be the only thing in the way.

[Ferrets are Cool]

1. They know how to USE him. And they do not care that he is a vocal ticking time bomb.

It doesn't seem to matter what he says.

[relayerbob]

4. Yes, they'll use him until he gets in their way

The oligarchs have no need or interest in a collapsing economy.

[TwilightZone]

2. This is a fantasy.

Trump is going nowhere unless he dies. Vance needs half of Trump's hand-picked Cabinet lackeys to invoke the 25th.

Not happening.

Plus, they don't need Vance. Trump has the same agenda.

[relayerbob]

3. No, Trump's agenda is Trump

He is a liability to their maintain power over the long haul. They are well aware of it. And they *will* act on it at some point. Vance has kept his distance from Trump, both physically and politically. I seriously doubt that is an accident.

And if you think they need to 25th Amendment him, that's a fantasy. He's a burned out old dude, an offer of enough money in exchange for a complete pardon and protection from any and all legal attacks, in exchange for his resignation is one avenue. And don't think that Putin/Vance/Thiel are above arranging for .... other options. Look at what has happened to so many theoretically powerful people in Russia.

Do not underestimate Vance, we've already underestimated Trump, multiple times. He is MUCH more dangerous than he appears, and he appears pretty dangerous already.