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LetMyPeopleVote

(154,018 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:34 PM 17 hrs ago

DEADLINE WHITEHOUSE uncovers REAL REASON Why Kamala Lost - Nicole Wallace MSNBC revealing Insights

I am a numbers geek. While I do blame part of Kamala's defeat on sexism, I heard today a good explanation as to what one of the major reasons for Tuesday's election results on Deadline White House today. President Biden had an approval rating of around 40% and the wrong track numbers were very high. Historically, an incumbent president tends to get the same percentage of vote as their approval ratings. Here Kamala got 7% or so higher vote compared to Joe Biden's approval rating which is a testament to the fact that she ran a great campaign.




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Joe Biden did a great job on the economy and prevented a recession. However the public was still upset at the fact that food and other things cost more and they felt bad about the economy. The high percentage of people who believe that the country was on the wrong track also hurt. In effect, Kamala was facing a very high burden to overcome and was unable to overcome the feelings that the country was on the wrong track and the fact voters were upset about the economy.
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DEADLINE WHITEHOUSE uncovers REAL REASON Why Kamala Lost - Nicole Wallace MSNBC revealing Insights (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote 17 hrs ago OP
My brother owns a company in San Diego. SleeplessinSoCal 16 hrs ago #1
And... 2naSalit 16 hrs ago #9
That seems extreme. SleeplessinSoCal 12 hrs ago #14
All those... 2naSalit 7 hrs ago #15
That is depressing. SleeplessinSoCal 1 hr ago #16
The blame game...60% of Latino men voted for tsf..along with 18% of white men PortTack 16 hrs ago #2
Well, if you vote for the guy who plans to deport you..... hadEnuf 16 hrs ago #5
Thank you so much. I saw this today and yorkster 16 hrs ago #3
Dowd was great today LetMyPeopleVote 16 hrs ago #4
I don't believe anything he says now. He kept saying to ignore helpisontheway 15 hrs ago #13
I don't think blaming soley on Biden's 40% approval rating works standingtall 16 hrs ago #6
Not the real reason. People need to quit reading and watching MSM. valleyrogue 16 hrs ago #7
Dems also have to admit kwolf68 16 hrs ago #8
All I can say to all these folks that voted based on their perception of the economy, if they thought alwaysinasnit 16 hrs ago #10
So, people voted for the grifter whose 'agenda' ACCORDING TO B.See 15 hrs ago #11
Don't need all these talking heads to know why she lost yaesu 15 hrs ago #12
The change candidate wins in periods of economic uncertainty: hope and change wins bigger andym 1 hr ago #17

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,647 posts)
1. My brother owns a company in San Diego.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:37 PM
16 hrs ago

He has been wanting to sell it so he can retire and "get out of California". Every time we saw him over the past four years he complained about the "recession". The fact that there was no recession since Biden took office proves where he gets his information.

2naSalit

(92,332 posts)
9. And...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:17 PM
16 hrs ago

He'll probably move to Montana and add to the myth that this state has nobody here. Of course, now that magats have taken full control of the state government and supreme court, a lot self deportation is going to take place.

2naSalit

(92,332 posts)
15. All those...
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 07:10 AM
7 hrs ago

Magats have been moving here in droves over the past decade and they have taken over the state because they want to mine the fuck out of our public lands now that a lot has been trashed by cattle grazing and too many offroad vehicle leaving the trails and logging road carving up habitat not to mention the clearcuts.

But all that will be happening like a wildfire now that the takeover is complete.They came here with intent and we will have no say in the matter now. I am leaving as soon as arrangements can be made. Just another iteration of Rmoney's self deportation.

yorkster

(2,343 posts)
3. Thank you so much. I saw this today and
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:44 PM
16 hrs ago

heard Matt Dowd and David Jolley talking about this. Dowd was terrific. I had not heard this analysis and felt much better after hearing the full discussion.

Everyone should see your post.
Thanks again.

helpisontheway

(5,264 posts)
13. I don't believe anything he says now. He kept saying to ignore
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:57 PM
15 hrs ago

the negative things in the media. He said she would win by 4 pts.

standingtall

(2,931 posts)
6. I don't think blaming soley on Biden's 40% approval rating works
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:54 PM
16 hrs ago

That not a reliable metric. No President might not have ever been reelected with a 40% approval rating, but I'm pretty sure I've seen witnessed in my lifetime Governors reelected with approval ratings less then that and Biden's approval ratings could've been boosted with better messaging. We can longer wait until election season to start campaigning. We need to have year round partisan Democratic surrogates talking up our accomplishment not never Trump never Trump Republications who've never bought into the Democratic agenda.

valleyrogue

(1,006 posts)
7. Not the real reason. People need to quit reading and watching MSM.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:56 PM
16 hrs ago

The GOP went after the misogynist, racist vote, especially using social media, and all these young guys came out of the woodwork.

If you think it has to do with Biden or perceptions of the economy, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

MAGA merchandise is the modern version of the old KKK hoods and robes.

kwolf68

(7,866 posts)
8. Dems also have to admit
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:01 PM
16 hrs ago

That it's not just white people who can be racists. Ill just leave it at that. But when we nominated a woman of color, we basically tossed a fair % of NONwhite racists (we know we never get the white racists) and the misogynists (of all races) over to Trump.

But the main problem is we lost the lower middle class/working people that Biden was able to capture. Harris just wasn't able to keep that group together. Biden, even at 80% in 2020 destroyed Trump. Mainly because the working-class love Joe. They did not love Kamala, for whatever reason.

The ironic thing about Biden is he has ALWAYS been a gaff machine, has often been hot-miced saying something incendiary about Republicans. It never hurt him. He would fuck up names, dates, places, but he's kick your ass. And it NEVER hurt him. Kamala was perfect, never slipped up, not a single offensive comment. And she got trounced.

Don't get me wrong, I love Kamala and I am devastated, but American politics requires someone who has a little bit of asshole in them.

I don't know what I am saying, I am drinking here. lol

alwaysinasnit

(5,232 posts)
10. All I can say to all these folks that voted based on their perception of the economy, if they thought
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:23 PM
16 hrs ago

Biden's economy was bad, they are likely in for a very nasty surprise. Musk already forewarned people that we are in for a financial shock should tfg return to the WH.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kaboom-elon-musk-predicts-hardship-economic-turmoil-and-a-stock-market-crash-if-trump-wins-20483008

yaesu

(8,141 posts)
12. Don't need all these talking heads to know why she lost
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:49 PM
15 hrs ago

she lost because corporate media kissed tRumps ass from the moment he declared his candidacy.

andym

(5,641 posts)
17. The change candidate wins in periods of economic uncertainty: hope and change wins bigger
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:17 PM
1 hr ago

Trump was the chaotic volatile change candidate. There was a method to his madness.

Kamala was the hope candidate and her great performance over Biden's favorabilty was a testament to that.

Kamala might have won big if she could have broken free of being cast as an establishment continuation of Biden. Hope and change wins as Obama taught. It would have required pushing that theme big time with big visionary plans.

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