It's the economy, stupid

[Septua]

Headline:

"Shattered Democrats grapple with Harris loss"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/shattered-democrats-grapple-kamala-harris-loss-rcna178967

Democrats called for a full party reckoning on Wednesday, as they attempted to pick up the pieces of their shattered organization a day after Vice President Kamala Harris’ loss to former President Donald Trump.

The Harris campaign was running on democracy and abortion...they couldn't fix the price of gas and groceries or the border issue.

And, Kamala is a brown-skin woman.

In my humble opinion, that's why she lost...

[jrthin]

1. Economy my tush. Try racism and misogyny.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

19. The use of propaganda to stir up hate.

The Repubs have been using propaganda and psychological tricks to ramp up hate and fear.

[Keepthesoulalive]

2. The economy is cover

The majority of white folks always go back to what they are comfortable with and no republican has fixed anything yet.

[Quiet Em]

3. Harris was running on economic issues

The con was running on bigotry.

[City Lights]

4. I would alter to: "It's the perceived economy, stupid."

Too many gullible people believed the garbage strewn across social media.

[jfz9580m]

24. This.nt

[Mike 03]

5. Personally, I haven't found these narrow explanations for

what happened to be very convincing, although I've heard a lot of them over the past two days.

I am guessing that when this is sorted out there are multiple factors involved.

[jfz9580m]

25. I agree

Too many simplistic and reductive narratives everywhere. It isn’t any one thing. It is the hardest problem imaginable to herd cats in a democracy battling multiple stresses (economic inequality, ecological crises on multiple fronts, weaponised misinfo, covid and so much more), .

I do think Trump is going to stress test American and possibly global (the spiralling effects of a Trump era) democracy.

[roamer65]

6. Let's make Dump a Hoover 2.0

Vote with your dollars people.

Demand destruction.

[Dem4life1234]

7. She's a woman period

A white woman would have lost, too. You think a white woman would have won? Look what happened to Hillary.


And Kamala ran on the economy, too. Just face it, a good number of the American public are dumb and stupid.

[Septua]

21. I agree with all that.

"A white woman would have lost, too. You think a white woman would have won? Look what happened to Hillary."

I'll quote my Son: "I don't think this election was winnable, at least not by a decent human being."

In hindsight, he's right. I just mentioned gender and race because some stupid and racist people would never vote for a woman and would never vote for a non-white of either gender.


"And Kamala ran on the economy, too. Just face it, a good number of the American public are dumb and stupid."

She talked about the economy but couldn't overcome the propaganda about the economy.

Quoting my Son again: "I think most voters are too f'n hateful and stupid."

That sums up MAGA pretty well.

[Meadowoak]

8. If we ever get a shot at another election, please,

Please, please, nominate a middle aged white male. It shouldn't have to be this way, but it is. We've lost twice running women. The country just isn't there yet.

[SoCalDavidS]

9. The Last 2 Democratic Presidents

Obama - Not White

Biden - Not Middle Aged

[Dem4life1234]

10. I agree

Damn I hate saying that, but really, another reason why I wish Biden was twenty years younger at his physical best. He carried the hell out of those rust belt states. He was a PA guy, too.

Hopefully a straight white middle aged man with working class roots from a swing state.

[Meadowoak]

18. Andy Beshear, governor of KY. Or Newsome

[lame54]

11. It's the stupid misunderstanding of the economy

[GoreWon2000]

12. Abortion is an economic issue!

Forcing middle and low income families to bring children into the world that they can't afford because the repug Nazis have outlawed birth control is a financially ruinous economic issue. Husbands having to raise young children alone, on only 1 income because their wives died from a miscarriage because they couldn't get the medical help they needed because the repug Nazis value dead fetuses more than living breathing women is an economic issue. The Nazis are going to send women back to my grandmother's time. My grandmother used tree bark multiple times to end unwanted pregnancies because she and my grandfather already had 3 children and couldn't afford any more. She was one of the lucky ones who didn't die. Many women died.
It's time for American men to figure out that abortion/birth control bans hurt them along with women. They also need to understand that women are half the population and are demanding a seat at the power table and will continue to do so.

[Septua]

22. Men and abortion

"It's time for American men to figure out that abortion/birth control bans hurt them along with women. They also need to understand that women are half the population and are demanding a seat at the power table and will continue to do so."

..and I thought a bunch of men would vote for pro-choice...

[JCMach1]

13. Thiel and Musk were microtargeting

This and other issues to get people's butts on the couches.

Much easier to get them to do this than vote.

Literally, NOGOTV

We underestimated the power of social media this election and ultimately wasted 100's of millions on GOTV and unnecessary ads

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. She could have been from Mars.

If folks were happy with the economy and the direction of the country she would have won.

[Deminpenn]

16. This

nt

[leftstreet]

23. +1

[Deminpenn]

15. It was the economy

People are just mad and frustrated with the spike in prices. They took it out on the party in the White House.

It's really no more complicated than that.

Next time you're out grocery shopping, make a casual comment to a shopper near you about how expensive things are. You'll get quick agreement.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Yes

If folks were happy with the direction of the country and the economy they would have ignored all the questions about Biden's age.

[valleyrogue]

20. No, it isn't. It's the sexism, racism, and xenophobia instead.

Nobody is going to tell a pollster or a journalist that they voted for the Combover Caligula because they are sexist, racist, xenophobic assholes. They just aren't. The truth, though, is the Trump Make America Great Again flags, shirts, and caps are the modern era's version of the KKK hoods and robes of yore.

Same difference.

[Scrivener7]

26. Right. And all those diner guys told us it was the economy last time too. Because they felt so economically insecure.

But it was racism and sexism then and it's racism and sexism now.

[Clouds Passing]

27. Fuck you nbc

[andym]

28. Bill Clinton's famous slogan remains true-- more acurately: "it's the people's perception of the economy, stupid"

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and we saw that polling consistently showed they were not happy with the economy and because of that Joe's favorability polling was suffering.

[hunter]

29. Fearful ignorant people are dangerous. They vote for and support Trump.

Fear and ignorance is not confined to any economic class. There are plenty of billionaires who live in fear.