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malaise

(277,729 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:03 PM 23 hrs ago

THIS

Last edited Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:27 PM - Edit history (1)

H.L. Mencken, in the Baltimore Evening Star on July 25, 1920: “As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron.”

Newspaper clip here
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-sun-hl-mencken-article-26/21831908/

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THIS (Original Post) malaise 23 hrs ago OP
Nailed it Pas-de-Calais 22 hrs ago #1
H.L. Mencken was great in his time and still reads true. Narcissistic. Jeez, couldn't be more spot on. MMBeilis 22 hrs ago #2
"Narcissistic" wasn't Mencken's word. Harker 21 hrs ago #9
Added original clip link malaise 21 hrs ago #12
I've been reading Mencken since the 70s... Harker 21 hrs ago #16
so, what is the actual quote? msfiddlestix 21 hrs ago #17
Post 7 has the whole piece reproduced... Harker 19 hrs ago #23
This message was self-deleted by its author dpibel 2 hrs ago #32
So......I stand "corrected"? MMBeilis 20 hrs ago #19
Not at all. The description fits Trumpsky well. n/t Harker 19 hrs ago #22
Harker stands corrected? dpibel 2 hrs ago #33
Words of wisdom. multigraincracker 21 hrs ago #3
The strength, or the weakness markodochartaigh 21 hrs ago #4
WHOA!!! Jean Genie 21 hrs ago #5
Yep. 100% truth relayerbob 21 hrs ago #6
original didn't have narcisstic and it was the Sun Kali 21 hrs ago #7
You are correct malaise 21 hrs ago #11
Thank you for posting the entire piece, which is one of the clearest niyad 21 hrs ago #14
what is the corrected quote? msfiddlestix 20 hrs ago #18
last sentence at link Kali 20 hrs ago #20
After the last comma, it reads: dpibel 2 hrs ago #31
But why did it have to happen in *my* lifetime? EnergizedLib 21 hrs ago #8
You apparently haven't read Tolkein. malthaussen 3 hrs ago #29
That is amazing foresight . surfered 21 hrs ago #10
Ouch. rubbersole 21 hrs ago #13
KNR. There was also his comment about not going broke underestimating niyad 21 hrs ago #15
He Left off the word 'twice' Conjuay 20 hrs ago #21
An oldie but a goodie. Thanks. (no text) returnee 6 hrs ago #24
Wow! Martin68 4 hrs ago #25
Yes. cilla4progress 4 hrs ago #26
Actually, Trump was right...America IS a shithole country. world wide wally 1 hr ago #35
This certainly applies to 2016. It DOES NOT describe 2024.... AZ8theist 3 hrs ago #27
Got this one right. republianmushroom 3 hrs ago #28
Mr Mencken was a journo... malthaussen 2 hrs ago #30
There are so many good things in this. Orange Buffoon 2 hrs ago #34
Indeed malaise 19 min ago #37
Ah yes PatSeg 25 min ago #36

Harker

(14,800 posts)
16. I've been reading Mencken since the 70s...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:40 PM
21 hrs ago

and it can be frustrating.

When he nailed one, though, he nailed it good and hard!

Harker

(14,800 posts)
23. Post 7 has the whole piece reproduced...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:57 PM
19 hrs ago

And the quote is at the very end.

I trust you'll forgive my not pecking it out one fingered on my phone.

Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #17)

dpibel

(3,269 posts)
33. Harker stands corrected?
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:09 PM
2 hrs ago

Harker is correct.

The actual quote, reproduced at the link, is: "On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

Or did I misunderstand your post as to who stands corrected?

markodochartaigh

(1,967 posts)
4. The strength, or the weakness
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:02 PM
21 hrs ago

of democracy is that sooner or later the people get the government that they deserve.

Kali

(55,701 posts)
7. original didn't have narcisstic and it was the Sun
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:11 PM
21 hrs ago


https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-sun-hl-mencken-article-26/21831908/

apologies for being pedantic, truly, I may be on this kick for a while. the forces of misinformation and inaccuracy have taken over the country and I just feel like I am going to be annoying everyone I know with corrections.


edit, also looks like it was on the 26th

niyad

(119,489 posts)
14. Thank you for posting the entire piece, which is one of the clearest
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:33 PM
21 hrs ago

explanations of how we got here.

malthaussen

(17,655 posts)
29. You apparently haven't read Tolkein.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:50 AM
3 hrs ago

“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

-- Mal

cilla4progress

(25,793 posts)
26. Yes.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 10:38 AM
4 hrs ago

I posted yesterday that America is a joke and a lie.

I should add circus, led by an unserious and very damaged man.

malthaussen

(17,655 posts)
30. Mr Mencken was a journo...
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:53 AM
2 hrs ago

... he made a living writing stuff like that. Very funny and cynical, but ultimately a bit nihilistic for a grownup's tastes. That doesn't mean he was wrong -- in fact, his very nihilism would have enabled him to see things most didn't because they were too invested in the symbolism.

-- Mal

Orange Buffoon

(202 posts)
34. There are so many good things in this.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:52 PM
2 hrs ago

(It's the first time I have read the entire thing.) In particular:
"But when a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense: he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even comprehending any save the most elemental—men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack, or count himself lost."

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