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Bernie Sanders underperformed Kamala Harris in his home state. (Original Post) lapucelle Yesterday OP
Will he cut back on the finger wagging at Kamala/Democrats now? SunSeeker Yesterday #1
Remember when he named Tulsi Gabbard a *fellow* at his *Institute*? lapucelle Yesterday #2
Apparently not. Cha Yesterday #5
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #3
Preach It , Brother! Cha Yesterday #6
He should have retired a decade ago. tritsofme Yesterday #4
He is wrong on this line of criticism, especially at this time newdeal2 Yesterday #7
I value his opinion as much as Trump's, to each their own I suppose. tritsofme 23 hrs ago #8
Comparing Sanders to Trump is ridiculous. Elessar Zappa 23 hrs ago #11
I don't think they are at all comparable figures. I just hold their opinions in the same value. tritsofme 23 hrs ago #12
Bernie wasn't running against convicted felon *rump. n/t Uncle Joe 23 hrs ago #9
no, but what started this movement against the Democrats was the people who ran his campaign in the primaries against JohnSJ 50 min ago #32
Why does this matter? Elessar Zappa 23 hrs ago #10
Some people just have some unhinged obsession with attacking that man SunImp 23 hrs ago #13
Wait a minute .. Sanders Attacked the Dems. Keep UP.. Cha 23 hrs ago #18
Yes! This is the kind of speaking out we need to do! yardwork 1 hr ago #28
Nah. Some people have an unhinged obsession with bashing the Democrats. lapucelle 23 hrs ago #20
Both can be true and they both need to finally grow up SunImp 22 hrs ago #21
I agree that trash-talking "the Democrats" yesterday showed poor impulse control. lapucelle 22 hrs ago #22
It's because he's so sanctimonious BannonsLiver 1 hr ago #29
Which part? Underperforming the Democratic candidate for president, lapucelle 23 hrs ago #14
There are those that feel Sundance1220 23 hrs ago #15
Bernie still won his election. He wasn't running nation wide either. Was he? Autumn 23 hrs ago #16
But fewer of HIS OWN Sundance1220 20 hrs ago #23
I'm a Bernie fan. I rarely disagree with him. Autumn 20 hrs ago #24
Because Sanders attacked Pres Biden, VP Kamala Harris Cha 23 hrs ago #19
Well Well Well... What does Sanders have to say about THAT? Cha 23 hrs ago #17
The difference is basically noise. Itactually might reflect that he went to many states to HELP Harris and karynnj 1 hr ago #25
and those states he went to, Wisconsin for example he sure didn't help us particularly. Just like when Barnes was JohnSJ 1 hr ago #26
Post removed Post removed 1 hr ago #27
lol, the only people that "screwed" Bernie were the millions of Democratic primary voters who clearly rejected him. tritsofme 58 min ago #31
Methinks Sanders has a severe case. . . DinahMoeHum 1 hr ago #30
He was sooooo quick to post his "analysis" the day after awesomerwb1 21 min ago #33
A lot of people fault him for capitulating to establishment Dems snot 28 sec ago #34

Elessar Zappa

(15,658 posts)
11. Comparing Sanders to Trump is ridiculous.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:49 PM
23 hrs ago

Trump is a fascist and a threat to democracy, Bernie Sanders is not. I don’t agree with him on some things and his 2016 attitude pissed me off but c’mon.

tritsofme

(18,273 posts)
12. I don't think they are at all comparable figures. I just hold their opinions in the same value.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:53 PM
23 hrs ago

Both are irrelevant to me.

JohnSJ

(96,324 posts)
32. no, but what started this movement against the Democrats was the people who ran his campaign in the primaries against
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:46 PM
50 min ago

Hillary, David Sirota, Nina Turner, Brhiana Joy Gray, Cornell West, all of them not only refused to support the Democratic nominee in the general election, and encouraged others to do likewise, and it mattered.

Yes, the Comey interference, and the MSM pushing the lie that "the email investigation was reopened" were main contributing factors, but that so many of those who were part of the Sander's campaigned, not only refused to vote for Hillary, but encouraged others to do likewise was the coup de grace.

In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while in the critical swing states Jill Stein received 1% of the vote.

It didn't take much, but it was enough.

When Biden ran in 2020, was no run away election. It was very close in those swing states.

So when Sander falsely accuses the Harris campaign and Democrats of not supporting labor, it is bullshit.

Not only did Democrats support labor, but President Biden actually walked the picket line with them, and one of Harris major focus on her campaign was embracing labor.

Labor split the vote between trump and Harris, which wasn't a good thing, and reminded me of those Reagan Democrats who were comprised of labor and the unions, who voted for Reagan over Carter.

That was the beginning of the unravelling of the power of the unions, and they have been suffering ever since. I suspect they will soon come to realize the same fate soon enough when trump takes over the reigns of power.

Cha

(304,875 posts)
18. Wait a minute .. Sanders Attacked the Dems. Keep UP..
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:20 PM
23 hrs ago

We're calling him OUT for False Accusations against Pres Biden, VP Kamala Harris, and our Democratic Party!

yardwork

(63,970 posts)
28. Yes! This is the kind of speaking out we need to do!
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:32 PM
1 hr ago

Sanders attacked us. I sure as hell have the right to push back.

lapucelle

(19,525 posts)
14. Which part? Underperforming the Democratic candidate for president,
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:58 PM
23 hrs ago

or having named a Trump acolyte/transition team member as a *fellow* at the *Sanders Institute*?

Sundance1220

(19 posts)
15. There are those that feel
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:00 PM
23 hrs ago

Sen Sanders crapped the bed by trashing Democrats for losing the election. The timing was tone deaf and it looks like he underperformed VP Harris in his home state.

Sundance1220

(19 posts)
23. But fewer of HIS OWN
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:54 PM
20 hrs ago

people voted for him. I think that's embarrassing. And what do you have to say about him being completely gone deaf in his timing. I've never been a Bernie fan. It's crap like this that is merely one of the reasons

Cha

(304,875 posts)
19. Because Sanders attacked Pres Biden, VP Kamala Harris
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:32 PM
23 hrs ago

and the Dems for "Abandoning Working People" Which is Not true.



-Millions of jobs were created.
-Unemployment has remained low.
-Manufacturing returned to the US.
-Prescription prices were lowered.
-More Americans have healthcare than ever before.
-Billions were given to student debt relief.
-The American Rescue Plan got Americans back to work, covered Cobra payments, and even directly gave Americans money.

Let's stop pretending that nothing was done by this administration when it inherited a pandemic, a migrant crisis, and high inflation and managed not only to address all of those issues through Republican obstruction but accomplished much more as well.

There's always more to do, and mistakes happen, but to act like Democrats abandoned the working class is ridiculous.

Tell me how you're going to get Universal healthcare through a Republican Congress, Mr. Sanders.

And, the OP shows Kamala Outperformed Sanders in his own state of Vermont.

karynnj

(59,901 posts)
25. The difference is basically noise. Itactually might reflect that he went to many states to HELP Harris and
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:16 PM
1 hr ago

did very little campaigning in Vermont. Oddly, that is something New England cares about.

JohnSJ

(96,324 posts)
26. and those states he went to, Wisconsin for example he sure didn't help us particularly. Just like when Barnes was
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:27 PM
1 hr ago

running against Johnson in Wisconsin. Barnes had a significant lead, then Bernie endorsed him, Barnes embraced that endorsement, and Sanders went to Wisconsin to campaign for him. After that, the lead Barnes had was completely erased.

Response to lapucelle (Original post)

tritsofme

(18,273 posts)
31. lol, the only people that "screwed" Bernie were the millions of Democratic primary voters who clearly rejected him.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:37 PM
58 min ago

DinahMoeHum

(22,477 posts)
30. Methinks Sanders has a severe case. . .
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:36 PM
1 hr ago

. . .of the Nothing-But-The-Best-For-The-Oppressed syndrome.

Too many times he's let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

snot

(10,670 posts)
34. A lot of people fault him for capitulating to establishment Dems
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 02:36 PM
28 sec ago

. They think he should have fought harder against the DNC's cheating and gone third party.

I'm not sure what to think; I suspect he made a deal that gave him more power in the Senate than he would have had otherwise.

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