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Cattledog

(6,311 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:02 AM Yesterday

Remember, Trump is a "Lame Duck"

He now has to govern and that's something he can't really do. He's a showman and will probably do some serious damage to
the country and institutions but he's a relic and probably won't even last 4 years.

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Remember, Trump is a "Lame Duck" (Original Post) Cattledog Yesterday OP
He might not last four weeks. I fully expect him to be removed via the 25th Amendment. valleyrogue Yesterday #1
Please, read section 4 of the 25th Amendment. rsdsharp Yesterday #7
There is always a first time, and if there is anything about Trump that is evident, valleyrogue Yesterday #8
Do you really think he'll just go willingly? Or will it take a 2/3rds vote of both houses of Congress? rsdsharp Yesterday #9
I give it a 0% chance. And that's generous. DeepWinter Yesterday #26
There are always other ways. GoodRaisin Yesterday #13
What would those be? rsdsharp Yesterday #24
Let's just say I don't believe that their agenda is GoodRaisin 23 hrs ago #34
Come on. Show some guts and say what you mean. rsdsharp 22 hrs ago #37
I'm assuming GenThePerservering 22 hrs ago #38
Ha! What more need I say that requires "guts"? GoodRaisin 15 hrs ago #39
Damned if I know, but there must be some reason you won't spell out the "other ways." rsdsharp 14 hrs ago #40
Oh, I don't think you're that naive. GoodRaisin 14 hrs ago #41
I'm not naive. I think I know what you're suggesting, and why you don't have the courage to spell it out. rsdsharp 14 hrs ago #43
See reply #39. Should be sufficient for most any GoodRaisin 14 hrs ago #44
Because a congress and senate majorities are needed to actually remove president from office. LisaL 7 hrs ago #49
Not simple majorities. Two-thirds majorities of both houses. rsdsharp 52 min ago #55
25A requires a majority of the cabinet FBaggins Yesterday #17
They can all look forward to being fired at some point soon too. Omnipresent Yesterday #27
They will bdamomma Yesterday #18
"He now has to govern " TwilightZone Yesterday #2
I am guessing they will just kill him rather than 25th amendment travelingthrulife Yesterday #6
Remember he said that if you vote for him this time, you'll never have to vote again MiniMe Yesterday #11
He's shining his golf clubs. GoodRaisin Yesterday #14
Hell difn e executive orders. Congress wiil govern nini 23 hrs ago #33
um HELLO that was the plan Skittles Yesterday #3
As soon as the ink is dry on his pardon he will be put out the pasture. yourout Yesterday #4
Vance is a million times worse than Trump and he's got the house and senate tenderfoot Yesterday #5
It's Cute SoCalDavidS Yesterday #10
How is he worse ? JI7 Yesterday #20
He is one of the ones the Christofascists want but my money would be on Mike Johnson. valleyrogue Yesterday #23
I think his health may preclude another run BannonsLiver Yesterday #12
Trump will run again. GoYouPackersGo Yesterday #28
If he makes it through 4 years. duncang Yesterday #15
Remember, Trump is a fuck headed orange dick faced anus mouth riddled with herpes Trueblue1968 Yesterday #16
He is the US version of Uganda's Idi Amin. n/t valleyrogue Yesterday #22
And not as jolly nor with charisma Dem4life1234 23 hrs ago #30
Trump's health is not good Blue_Roses Yesterday #19
Very true. LisaL 7 hrs ago #48
Another possible scenario is he resigns shortly after taking office in return for a pardon. valleyrogue Yesterday #21
He will pardon himself. mobeau69 6 hrs ago #54
I think you mean "Trump is a Limp Dick". milestogo Yesterday #25
Governing hasn't been the GOP agenda since Nixon. -nt CrispyQ Yesterday #29
Yup, and that includes Trump's previous term. GoCubsGo 23 hrs ago #31
Or.. he has 4 years to do whatever the fcuk he wants. C_U_L8R 23 hrs ago #32
Supposedly Emile 23 hrs ago #35
IMHO, he's a TWO YEAR lame duck WarGamer 23 hrs ago #36
2028 is gonna be fun Polybius 14 hrs ago #42
Vance vs No one Blue Full Moon 7 hrs ago #46
They just used him to install Vance. Blue Full Moon 7 hrs ago #45
I don't think Trump is planning on leaving. LisaL 7 hrs ago #47
Please don't start this again. totodeinhere 7 hrs ago #50
Which means he is even more dangerous. Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #51
Great depression 1929 -1939......................... Lovie777 7 hrs ago #52
Great Depression without the New Deal Vogon_Glory 6 hrs ago #53

valleyrogue

(1,006 posts)
1. He might not last four weeks. I fully expect him to be removed via the 25th Amendment.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:03 AM
Yesterday

This Trump candidacy is nothing but bait and switch.

rsdsharp

(10,083 posts)
7. Please, read section 4 of the 25th Amendment.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:12 AM
Yesterday

It is more difficult to remove a President who is reluctant to leave office through the 25th Amendment than it is through impeachment. And in four tries, impeachment has never been able to remove a President from office.

valleyrogue

(1,006 posts)
8. There is always a first time, and if there is anything about Trump that is evident,
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:13 AM
Yesterday

he is an individual for the record books.

rsdsharp

(10,083 posts)
9. Do you really think he'll just go willingly? Or will it take a 2/3rds vote of both houses of Congress?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:17 AM
Yesterday

Likely a Republican controlled Congress.

GenThePerservering

(2,556 posts)
38. I'm assuming
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:04 PM
22 hrs ago

He will suddenly have an 'illness' and Couchfucker will take over 'in the interim'. Please pray for the greatest president we have ever had and send money to TRUMP 911.

rsdsharp

(10,083 posts)
43. I'm not naive. I think I know what you're suggesting, and why you don't have the courage to spell it out.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:55 PM
14 hrs ago

GoodRaisin

(9,568 posts)
44. See reply #39. Should be sufficient for most any
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:20 AM
14 hrs ago

reasonable person. I’m not worried about my courage. You needn’t be either.

LisaL

(46,417 posts)
49. Because a congress and senate majorities are needed to actually remove president from office.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 07:20 AM
7 hrs ago

Otherwise it won't go anywhere.

FBaggins

(27,507 posts)
17. 25A requires a majority of the cabinet
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:18 AM
Yesterday

He’s about to select that cabinet

And, of course, they probably won’t be in place in the first four weeks

bdamomma

(66,156 posts)
18. They will
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:26 AM
Yesterday

install Vance if they get their chance. This is their plan, but they will cause much damage.

But this could have avoided if those who did not vote had. Remember Project 2025 they WILL implement it.

TwilightZone

(28,707 posts)
2. "He now has to govern "
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:05 AM
Yesterday

He didn't bother in his first term. Why would he have to now?

He's not a lame duck. I find it odd that people seem to think he is. He's not about to go anywhere unless he dies. it's cute that everyone thinks that Vance will be able to convince Trump's hand-picked cabinet to cut him loose.

travelingthrulife

(482 posts)
6. I am guessing they will just kill him rather than 25th amendment
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:12 AM
Yesterday

he is no longer of value to Putin or the other oligarchs.
of course they will blame the assassination on Democrats.

nini

(16,700 posts)
33. Hell difn e executive orders. Congress wiil govern
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:49 PM
23 hrs ago

And tear up everything they can that an exec order can't. We're in some deep deep shit here.

yourout

(8,003 posts)
4. As soon as the ink is dry on his pardon he will be put out the pasture.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:08 AM
Yesterday

Junior will be placed high enough to make sure the gravy train of grift keeps coming in.

SoCalDavidS

(10,296 posts)
10. It's Cute
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:35 AM
Yesterday

How insanely horrible and corrupt TFG is, but we're supposed to look on the bright side that JD is not the president.

valleyrogue

(1,006 posts)
23. He is one of the ones the Christofascists want but my money would be on Mike Johnson.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:59 AM
Yesterday

Vance is Catholic, while Johnson is a Protestant Christian reconstructionist.

BannonsLiver

(17,780 posts)
12. I think his health may preclude another run
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:52 AM
Yesterday

But is a piece of paper with 22 at the top going to keep him from running again if he wants to? Explain what the mechanism would be to stop him? Who would stop him? This SCOTUS? The military? If there’s no teeth behind it it’s just a piece of paper.

duncang

(3,493 posts)
15. If he makes it through 4 years.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:28 AM
Yesterday

He’s already signaled what he wants to do by saying he shouldn’t have left the WH the first time.

Blue_Roses

(13,351 posts)
19. Trump's health is not good
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:35 AM
Yesterday

He missed the handle of the garbage truck and in the process nearly fell. His left side, especially his leg, looked weak. I thing they are hiding just how bad his mental and physical health is. I just don't see him making it the full 4 years. He's almost 80 and half the time he doesn't know where he's at.

LisaL

(46,417 posts)
48. Very true.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 07:18 AM
7 hrs ago

But one can last a long time with a very poor health, especially if one is getting good medical care.

valleyrogue

(1,006 posts)
21. Another possible scenario is he resigns shortly after taking office in return for a pardon.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:56 AM
Yesterday

That's assuming he still has unresolved legal issues.

milestogo

(17,523 posts)
25. I think you mean "Trump is a Limp Dick".
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:21 PM
Yesterday

He can't really do anything with women so he takes away their rights and abuses them.

GoCubsGo

(32,936 posts)
31. Yup, and that includes Trump's previous term.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:44 PM
23 hrs ago

It was a royal fuck-up. Republicans don't care about governing. They only care about finding ways to enrich themselves, both in money and in power.

C_U_L8R

(45,622 posts)
32. Or.. he has 4 years to do whatever the fcuk he wants.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:45 PM
23 hrs ago

A megalomaniacal repeat-offender unleashed, with the very worst intentions.
He's gonna be like Don Jr with a pile of cocaine and some hookers on a Saturday night in Vegas.

totodeinhere

(13,259 posts)
50. Please don't start this again.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 07:21 AM
7 hrs ago

After he won the 2016 election I was reading at DU that he wouldn't last 4 years but of course he did. The only way he won't last 4 years this time is if he dies.

Lovie777

(14,794 posts)
52. Great depression 1929 -1939.........................
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 07:24 AM
7 hrs ago

this is where we are headed. His voters will suffer along with us.

Vogon_Glory

(9,535 posts)
53. Great Depression without the New Deal
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 08:15 AM
6 hrs ago

Billionaires and right-wing ideologues oppose spending money to benefit the masses.

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