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Thoughts on this economists opinion on why we lost the rust belt (Original Post) Quixote1818 Wednesday OP
This, however, talks about Obama and may explain Obama (who won however) and Clinton,, but somaticexperiencing Wednesday #1
I've been saying the same thing for over 30 years now lapfog_1 Wednesday #2
1. This, however, talks about Obama and may explain Obama (who won however) and Clinton,, but
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 10:05 PM
Wednesday

not where either Joe or Kamala have been at.

Not buying this as an explanation.

Inflation. Democracy was given away for a cheaper carton of eggs.

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2. I've been saying the same thing for over 30 years now
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 10:28 PM
Wednesday

We were going to git rid of those dirty industrial jobs and everyone was going to retrain to take over Information Technology jobs and Finance jobs. I looked at that and said bullshit. Not everyone is cut out to be in IT or writing software, we should not depend on China for manufactured goods as it made for an iffy supply chain, and retraining older assembly line workers into desk jockeys would be a difficult transition.

I was told tut tut, of course Americans would be in IT jobs, they would pay more, blah blah blah. I pointed out that India has MORE honors students than the USA has students... and they all spoke English. And calls were already being routed over this thing I helped invent called the Internet. And people laughed at me. That will never happen.

Plus, as echoed on the West Wing the the Big Block of Cheese Day episode... where Toby Ziegler explains... "free trade stops wars" to explain why moving all those "rust belt" jobs to China was a good thing... You see, once China is our major trading partner they would never go to war with us because we are their essential market for the goods they now make. I said that is not what History shows... many times in the past the dog really does bite the hand that feeds it. and I was laughed at over and over about this.

And here we are, the guy is absolutely right about how MAGA came about... and why Bernie says what he says. Doesn't hurt that these people are the no college / Christian values types that also don't like our "woke" ( an absolutely horrible name ) agenda. "Woke" should have been respect for others... because that is what it is. simply that. The respect agenda. The be and let be agenda.

Anyway... I still think the repukes cheated somehow. I am certain of it. This election doesn't match any of the polls. Yes, polling has been off a lot... but from 3 points ahead to a 14 point loss in Iowa? the last poll taken by a local who is usually so spot on that every result is off by a point or at most 2 in the last N elections???

Something doesn't smell right. 17 points off?

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