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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHacking voting machines w massive gpu farms, quantum computers and nsa grade ai tools.
I really doubt that the commercial voting machines use quantum resistant encryption. If tech billionaires can assemble massive GPU farms and even quantum computers, perhaps this concern is not really tin hat. Something about the numbers doesnt smell right.
bucolic_frolic
(46,825 posts)Massive early voting, turnout around the blocks for days, yet 27 million fewer votes than 2020. Pollsters even polled early voters!
LeftInTX
(29,949 posts)There are double checks. The ins should equal the outs. If not, then there is a problem.
"Massive" needs to be quantified. 1500 voters at a polling site? How many votes were cast? How many under votes? It's not rocket science.
Zeitghost
(4,470 posts)That none of that is true right? There are no missing votes, there were not 27M fewer votes than 2020 (likely closer to 4-5M) there was no massive turnout.
summer_in_TX
(3,189 posts)and the ballots only have to be *postmarked* by Election Day. Nevada is another that has many mail-in ballots that can arrive up to 3 days after Election Day.
Cha
(305,116 posts)Its TSF,musk, & Putin were talking about!
Orrex
(64,060 posts)PA's vote totals are officially about the same as last time, but polling stations locally reported the highest turnout in decades.
I grant that this is anecdotal, but in the aggregate it's conspicuous.
Clouds Passing
(2,148 posts)tulipsandroses
(6,202 posts)I trust that if there is evidence of wrong doing, Marc Elias would not stop fighting to get to the truth.
BrightKnight
(3,684 posts)State actors and tech billionaires with top tier gpu farms could reasonably be assumed to be able to crack them. They simply are not to designed to resist that kind of attack. They are probably no more secure than a corporate laptop. It has been rumored that Open ai cracked aes encryption without a quantum computer. This is a valid concern but I am not asserting that it is true.
Zeitghost
(4,470 posts)They have no connection to the outside world. This is Trump level lunacy. These kind of claims were the basis of several successful defamation lawsuits won after the 2020 election cycle.
BrightKnight
(3,684 posts)There are suggestions that open AI has done that without quantum pcs. I assume that large State actors can do it. AES is not designed to be quantum resistant.
Is it possible that there is a failure point after the machines? I am not asserting this is true but expressing a concern and asking questions.
Zeitghost
(4,470 posts)And the networks they are eventually fed into have no outside connection. You would need to infiltrate every county election office and tamper physically with the system to explain the results we saw.
These are the same claims Trump and Fox and the rest made in 2020. Some of them lost millions in defamation lawsuits. It's simply not realistic or possible.
BrightKnight
(3,684 posts)milestogo
(17,617 posts)The NSA should be involved in securing our elections. If there is a possibility of a hack they must look into it.
I work in IT, and the best security person in our group left in March to work for the NSA.
Dem4life1234
(1,472 posts)People are rightfully concerned with election interferences from these hideous entities.
LeftInTX
(29,949 posts)LeftInTX
(29,949 posts)They want paper.
BrightKnight
(3,684 posts)LeftInTX
(29,949 posts)BrightKnight
(3,684 posts)I can find common ground with voting security. Trump was not concerned with actual election security.
SoCalDavidS
(10,501 posts)BrightKnight
(3,684 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(18,324 posts)So, code would have to be modified, undetected, before installation, or each machine would have to have its software modified individually, in person, after the software was installed.
Occams razor says: more people voted for Trump than for Harris.
BrightKnight
(3,684 posts)Good security is probably many layers. My concern was that password alone would not be enough. I am concerned that generic corporate password security might not match the threat level and that there are other options available. I am not asserting that this actually happened.
relayerbob
(6,999 posts)The central computers that hold the final results are where one would go.
relayerbob
(6,999 posts)A company that specializes in government work, security software and is one of Elon Musk's earliest partners, as well as JD Vance's boss out of college. Thiel and Musk know they can't be the President, but Vance ... their pet ... can be.
There were dozens of emailed "bomb threats" from Russia yesterday. The SoS of my own Georgia was one of the first to report on them. A company that knows the inner workings of government systems, in concert with the KGB/FSB, will know how to either implant malware in those emails (which obviously were opened), or use them as a diversion while the real malware is planted.
I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories, but as some else the math ain't mathing here. It smells to high heaven. I fully believe Trump's "little secret" is this. No way 15 million people stayed home compared to 2020.
TheRickles
(2,382 posts)iemanja
(54,728 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,352 posts)Just go with the obvious. Courting the women's vote doesn't get you elected POTUS.
Hannahcares
(124 posts)Anyone still around who remembers stunning research by Francois Choquette during republicsn primaries between Romney, Ron Paul etc,
Research paper demonstrated changes in election outcomes detectable by statistical anomalies in larger precincts.
Attached link to studies. Could some data studies be done on Presidential election?
Peace, Hannah
https://codered2014.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/primaryElectionResultsAmazingStatisticalAnomalies_V2.1.pdf