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Harris is going to get perhaps 10 million fewer votes than Biden (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Wednesday OP
Fewer. nt BWdem4life Wednesday #1
Not.... Lovie777 Wednesday #2
The RW Propaganda Machine was & is real. Dark n Stormy Knight Wednesday #3
Massive part of it Johnny2X2X Wednesday #5
Next year they'll suddenly start talking about how low inflation is. NYC Liberal Wednesday #6
Oh yeah. In fact, their pandering to Trump will Dark n Stormy Knight Wednesday #7
Kamala did say that tRump's concept of a plan for the economy would cause inflation to hike upwards ProudMNDemocrat Wednesday #8
If what they say about Trump's tariffs are true Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Wednesday #9
1974 WIN Deminpenn Wednesday #12
I remain gobsmacked how much the "gender reassignment surgery on minors" in school has landed. Pacifist Patriot Wednesday #14
I've always said far too many people are fucking morons Dark n Stormy Knight Wednesday #15
She ran an excellent campaign... FarPoint Wednesday #4
The party didn't drop the ball. Pacifist Patriot Wednesday #10
That sums it up for me. underpants Wednesday #11
This is truly remarkable Johnny2X2X Wednesday #13
Neither of those statistics are true Zeitghost Wednesday #16
About 3M Americans die every year (almost all adults), about 4M reach voting age each year andym Wednesday #17
It is stunning.and crazy. mountain grammy Wednesday #18
How do you come up with that number? There's a greater chance his lead will shrink some what not more than double onenote Wednesday #19

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,018 posts)
3. The RW Propaganda Machine was & is real.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 04:15 AM
Wednesday

They finally accomplished their goal of spewing enough disinformation to, in effect, steal the election both electoral & popular votes.

Johnny2X2X

(21,702 posts)
5. Massive part of it
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 04:21 AM
Wednesday

The inflation bombardment alone was overwhelming from the media. It was non stop and still continues now when inflation is back to 2%.

It’s all the media talked about for 2 years. As if we had never had a bout of inflation before.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,032 posts)
8. Kamala did say that tRump's concept of a plan for the economy would cause inflation to hike upwards
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 04:34 AM
Wednesday

in 6 months.

Forget raising the Minimum Wage. Workers who voted for tRump are going to find their hours screwed with and NO Overtime pay for it. Plan on that extra $4,000 a year out of your pockets,, people! Say hello to childhood poverty, no Child tax credits, or student loan forgiveness. Say hello as well to NO Health Care through the ACA, see Social Security and Medicare cut 30%(ouch!) or more. I bet those Seniors who voted for him are excited about that!

And then factor in inflation on top of all of that!

The MAGA Health Care plan..."Don't get sick! If you get sick, DIE quickly!" Credit that to former Congressman Alan Grayson when the ACA was being debated in 2009.

Deminpenn

(16,267 posts)
12. 1974 WIN
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 06:09 AM
Wednesday

Whip Inflation Now from the Nixon administration. Wage and price controls were implemented. Stagflation (stagnant economy with high inflation) brought about by Paul Volker. Mortgage interest rates 13% and more in the early 1980s.

I remember all that.

25 years ago, gas in the state was 2.60/gal. In 2024, it's 3.50/gal, a mere 90 cent rise in that time and that includes a big raise in the state's gas tax. If I drive a short distance to Ohio, it's only 20-25 cents more than in 1999.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,891 posts)
14. I remain gobsmacked how much the "gender reassignment surgery on minors" in school has landed.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 04:43 PM
Wednesday

Of all the stupid shit being tossed around, THAT is what I have heard these gullible jackasses yammer on about the most. Followed closely by immigrants criming and raping on every street in America and rampant post-birth abortion.

Three things that aren't happening, have never happened, and will never happen. The last one being something THAT DOESN'T EXIST and CANNOT LOGICALLY EXIST!!!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,018 posts)
15. I've always said far too many people are fucking morons
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:29 PM
Wednesday

who crave drama, but I now have absolute proof. I was hoping to find I was wrong.

FarPoint

(13,587 posts)
4. She ran an excellent campaign...
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 04:18 AM
Wednesday

Just too many damn trumpers/MAGAS...

Merrick Garalnd dropped the ball....never prosecuted tRump and the congressional insurrectionist... That prompted MAGAS to fight for tRumps life...

Pacifist Patriot

(24,891 posts)
10. The party didn't drop the ball.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 04:53 AM
Wednesday

Too many Americans are stupid gullible misogynist racists.

Dems are fighting a complicit media that sanewashed the fuck out of him, and that says nothing about the propaganda machine that generates a loony right wing bubble.

When people can sincerely believe schools are dolling out gender reassignment surgery behind parents' backs - and they do - we're well and truly fucked.

underpants

(186,451 posts)
11. That sums it up for me.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 05:31 AM
Wednesday

A woman of color and a media that kept him afloat even prompted him was just too much.

Johnny2X2X

(21,702 posts)
13. This is truly remarkable
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 06:42 AM
Wednesday

She will end up with 14 Million less votes than Biden got in 2020.

Trump will end up with less votes than 2020!

They just convinced 10-15 million Biden voters to stay home. That is absolutely crazy. And stunning.

Zeitghost

(4,470 posts)
16. Neither of those statistics are true
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:40 PM
Wednesday

After all of the votes are counted, it's going to be roughly 76M votes for Trump and 73M for Harris. 2020 Was 81M to 74M. Trump picked up ~2M and Harris lost ~8M with 6M fewer voters overall.

andym

(5,671 posts)
17. About 3M Americans die every year (almost all adults), about 4M reach voting age each year
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:42 PM
Wednesday

So there is a net 28M difference (3x4) + (4x4) in potential voters since 2020.
I don't think that explains the discrepancy, but it needs to be accounted for.

onenote

(44,458 posts)
19. How do you come up with that number? There's a greater chance his lead will shrink some what not more than double
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:49 PM
Wednesday

Right now she is down by around 4.69 million votes. According to NBC's projections, there are as many as 15 million votes still to be tabulated nationwide, with well over half of them from states that Harris won, like California and New York. She would have to lose the remaining 15 million votes, if that number turns out to be correct, by a margin of 10 million to 5 million to fall 10 million behind. It's far more likely that she wins a majority of the uncounted ballots and cuts into Trump's 4.69 million vote lead, although she probably can completely eradicate it.

But maybe you can explain where you got your 10 million vote number from?

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