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gab13by13

(24,829 posts)
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 11:45 AM Sep 18

Polls or Gambling Odds?

I favor gambling odds over polls because the House stands to lose money if it fudges the odds too much.

I went to British gambling sites. The Brits had TSF beating Joe Biden.

I just checked today and the Brits have Kamala beating TSF 4/5, really close, but winning.

Now, I understand that these odds will change based upon who people are betting on. Looking at the bets, a lot more people are betting on Kamala which means the bookies are going to have to raise the odds. I am going to check back in a couple of weeks.

Follow the money, honey. 😍

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Polls or Gambling Odds? (Original Post) gab13by13 Sep 18 OP
Not how gambling adds are set Johnny2X2X Sep 18 #1
Isn't that what I said? gab13by13 Sep 18 #2
I remember the betting markets getting gamed in 2020 bbrady42 Sep 18 #3
I don't think you are allowed to bet on the election in the United States. gab13by13 Sep 18 #5
It is about to Trenzalore Sep 18 #9
I just found it, holy shit, rife for more corruption. gab13by13 Sep 18 #10
Votes The Third Doctor Sep 18 #4
People want to back a winner, gab13by13 Sep 18 #7
Be careful, Peter Thiel has started up a gambling site - haele Sep 18 #6
GOTV Aepps22 Sep 18 #8
The odds could be 100-1 in favor of Kamala gab13by13 Sep 18 #11
At this point, I wouldn't trust either one LogDog75 Sep 18 #12

Johnny2X2X

(21,680 posts)
1. Not how gambling adds are set
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 11:49 AM
Sep 18

The gambling odds are set based on the public's money. They want to keep betting as close to 50-50 as possible. So it it's 55-45 for Harris right now, what that tells us is that for the people who are willing to gamble money ona political election outcome, 55-45 gets close to half and half.

Gamblers lean Conservative.

The models that take into account polling and other factors are usually much more predictive.

gab13by13

(24,829 posts)
2. Isn't that what I said?
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:03 PM
Sep 18

I said the bets right now are going for Kamala and I am going to check back to see if the odds go up.

If no one is betting on TSF the bookies are going to have to give him higher odds.

If a month from now the British odds are still 4/5 then I believe it will be a close race.

By the bye, give me a list of reliable pollsters, it seems that 538 went to the dark side. If a poll has TSF favored by 4, and Kamala wins, that poll isn't going to lose any money. If a gambling site has TSF favored by 4 and Kamala wins, it is going to lose a ton of money.

bbrady42

(189 posts)
3. I remember the betting markets getting gamed in 2020
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:11 PM
Sep 18

TFG supporters made bets on him for the express purpose of moving the odds into his favor. They treated it more like a donation than an actual bet.

gab13by13

(24,829 posts)
7. People want to back a winner,
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:18 PM
Sep 18

that's why sport's fans drop their "losing" favorite team and switch to a winning team.

haele

(13,415 posts)
6. Be careful, Peter Thiel has started up a gambling site -
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:18 PM
Sep 18

And you know he set it up to fleece the MAGA and MAGA adjacent, and brought in Nate Silver to help manipulate odds like polls can be manipulated.

Haele

LogDog75

(81 posts)
12. At this point, I wouldn't trust either one
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:55 PM
Sep 18

We've seen polling has changed over the years and they're not as accurate as they were 20 years ago so I wouldn't put much faith in them.

As for gambling on who will win, well, it's just gambling. With a potential of over 150 million voters, only a relatively small number of voters (independent and undecided voters) will actually decide who will win. Most gambling on an election is based either on intuition or bias for a candidate.

Another factor to consider is the republican voter suppression efforts in states they control will skew any polling data or gambling odds.

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