MAGA is now trying to blame "anti Trump rhetoric" for yesterday.
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No, under any circumstances do you not get to go there.
Trump praises fictional serial killers and deranged dictator wannabes like Viktor Orban and Nicolas Maduro. He makes *wink wink nudge nudge* casual threats on his social media hide hole daily.
On top of that, the GOP has not only made it completely legal for any stark raving lunatic to get a weapon of mass destruction, but they've been enabling, encouraging, and even aiding and abetting violent lunatics since the Nixon administration.
Like what the fuck did they expect was going to happen? You cannot compare Stephen Colbert making jokes to Trump’s "stand back and stand by" comment. Or the way he's been saying how much he loves Hannibal Lecter lately. Yes, Hannibal Lecter. A fictional cannibalistic serial killer. Even Hannibal himself, Anthony Hopkins, thought that his obsession is weird AF.
And on top of that, the people who committed both shootings are his people! They are not democrats, don't you dare pin that on us. And no sane democrat would be caught dead patronizing his shit.
What did they expect was going to happen? Trump is a violent lunatic and he attracts like minded people to his cause. This whole thing was entirely self inflicted and could have easily been prevented. But you don't get to pin this on us. Do not go there, you will regret it.
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Donald Trump Is a Threat to Democracy, and Saying So Is Not Incitement. Opposing political violence does not mean ignoring authoritarianism.
"Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. That was true before an assassination attempt was foiled at his golf course Sunday, and it remains true after. Political violence in general, and assassinating presidential candidates specifically, also poses risks to democracy.
There is no contradiction between these ideas whatsoever. Yet Trump’s supporters have responded to both attempts on his life by muddying the waters, exploiting the near-tragedies with cynical efforts to redefine critiques of Trump’s authoritarian inclinations as violent provocation...
There is a more serious conceptual problem with the argument that denouncing Trump as a threat to democracy inspired violence: It ignores the truth or falsity of the matter. Taken at face value, the argument implies that we cannot say a presidential candidate threatens democracy even if he plainly does. A party could nominate a candidate who openly promises to end elections and imprison all his critics, and the opposing party would be prevented from describing this candidate as a threat to democracy for fear of inspiring assassination attempts...
Rather than claiming that it’s dangerous to call a candidate a threat to democracy regardless of whether it’s true, they are insisting that Trump is not a threat to democracy. They are further insisting that the Democrats are a threat to democracy...
Supporting liberal democracy requires simultaneously affirming the right to engage in legal, peaceful activity while opposing violent and criminal actions. Trump upholds neither side of the equation. He considers all speech or political activity against him to be criminal and any activity on his behalf, whether or not it is illegal or violent, to be legitimate. He believes all these things because he is an authoritarian at heart. The impulse to stop his critics from accurately describing his political project is not a defense of democratic norms but the precise opposite."
Excellent read. There's alot more on the article. I love this online publication and glad they came out w it so quickly. We need to be viligant.
"A republic, if you can keep it." Ben Franklin
