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Dennis Donovan

(24,749 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:04 AM Sep 16

Kinzinger: new answer to any criticism of Trump is that he just had his second assassination attempt, so you can't.



Adam Kinzinger (Slava Ukraini)
Evidently, as I’m looking at Twitter, the new answer to any criticism of Trump is that he just had his second assassination attempt, so you can’t.

Yes you can. Within the bounds of any political criticism. Don’t let them try to intimidate you. Trump must be defeated.


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Kinzinger: new answer to any criticism of Trump is that he just had his second assassination attempt, so you can't. (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Sep 16 OP
Didn't Trump himself say we need to get over it? Didn't JD say it's a fact of life? tanyev Sep 16 #1
great point. barbtries Sep 16 #19
The more and more I read about this......................... Lovie777 Sep 16 #2
Everything about Dump is a lie and a fake, with the exception that he wants to be a dictator from day one Clouds Passing Sep 16 #3
"It's a fact of life." - JD Vance mzmolly Sep 16 #4
"We just need to move on." -TSF Scrivener7 Sep 16 #13
Yes. 'Get over it' and all. mzmolly Sep 16 #25
When asked about this occurrence or the last one, pivot to talking about sensible gun laws. rainin Sep 16 #5
Is it me or do ohers suspect these assasination attempts are orchestrated. infullview Sep 16 #6
No, it isn't just you. dmr Sep 16 #17
I did believe the first one was real. Demobrat Sep 16 #18
With you on this birdographer Sep 16 #21
What an amazing coincidence that a BattleRow Sep 16 #24
What's really amazing to me is that Demobrat Sep 16 #29
Exactly birdographer Sep 16 #32
Are you really amazed by that? Really? Self Esteem Sep 16 #42
Yes. I guess I'm easily amazed. Demobrat Sep 16 #46
Apparently so. Self Esteem Sep 16 #47
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Could be that too. Homeless people have found Demobrat Sep 16 #52
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That's what makes it impossible to know what to believe Demobrat Sep 16 #62
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All it would take is a sharp fingernail to do the little cut Trump had. mucholderthandirt Sep 17 #68
I saw a close up pic where Demobrat Sep 17 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 17 #72
What's left? BattleRow Sep 16 #31
I did...even a bit harshly so but at this point TheKentuckian Sep 16 #40
definitely not just you. barbtries Sep 16 #20
What do they sometimes call these???????? DENVERPOPS Sep 16 #41
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Yea DENVERPOPS Sep 16 #54
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Do you remember this one by CIA???? DENVERPOPS Sep 16 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 16 #59
It was a Black Flag operation DENVERPOPS Sep 16 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 16 #63
basically DENVERPOPS Sep 17 #65
we're in the US, apparently shooters happen, per his VP Coexist Sep 16 #7
There are a lot of MAGA haters who would love to get rid of Harris/Walz. infullview Sep 16 #9
No shots fired by "assassin" Gaytano70 Sep 16 #8
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TNNurse Sep 16 #23
The Ukrainian candidate? BattleRow Sep 16 #39
Good one BR....... NC DENVERPOPS Sep 16 #58
Been Saying The Same For 2 Days ProfessorGAC Sep 16 #45
Trump is a piece of shit that never should be allowed to hold office again. Thoughts and prayers. Solly Mack Sep 16 #10
The perp Linda ladeewolf Sep 16 #11
Somehow got money for his guns... infullview Sep 16 #15
A soviet era weapon would be quite cheap. 400? Evolve Dammit Sep 16 #35
K&R spanone Sep 16 #12
If tots and pears are good enough for our school children Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 16 #14
Two assassination attempts BY HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!! Sogo Sep 16 #16
The mainstream media is ignoring that fact.......... DENVERPOPS Sep 16 #61
Maybe flooding the country with assault weapons Joe Nation Sep 16 #22
Are assassination attempts interfering with Donald's ability to call in bomb threats to Springfield? struggle4progress Sep 16 #26
Some nutjob had a gun in his vicinity bhikkhu Sep 16 #27
Yep misanthrope Sep 16 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 16 #51
After the First Trump Assassination Attempt, panfluteman Sep 16 #28
Who signed NDAs? Demobrat Sep 16 #30
More details please Evolve Dammit Sep 16 #36
The burden of proof is on you for that claim misanthrope Sep 16 #44
This second gunman was supposed to die as well, so he couldn't tell all afterward. mucholderthandirt Sep 17 #69
🐖🐖🐖🐖🐖🐖🐖 Blue for the win Sep 16 #33
Yeah, So what. BFD. That changes Nothing, Cha Sep 16 #34
I seem to recall another fascist who survived an attempt on his life. Grokenstein Sep 16 #37
I'm sending him my thoughts and prayers. jamesatemple Sep 16 #38
I'm an atheist. The closest they get is tots and pears. mucholderthandirt Sep 17 #70
YES, you DAMN WELL CAN!!! calimary Sep 16 #48
I am still trying to wrap my head around the fact that SS could see a rifle barrel.... William Gustafson Sep 16 #55
I'm not intimidated. Trump is a threat to democracy. He is a hateful bigot tulipsandroses Sep 17 #66
I'm waiting to find out that there were no bullets. Historic NY Sep 17 #67

tanyev

(44,421 posts)
1. Didn't Trump himself say we need to get over it? Didn't JD say it's a fact of life?
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:09 AM
Sep 16

Oh, that's when OTHER people are victims of gun violence.

barbtries

(29,729 posts)
19. great point.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:50 AM
Sep 16

just throw it in their face. aw shucks, just a fact of life. we need to get over it, so do you.

besides which he was never in danger.

mzmolly

(51,526 posts)
4. "It's a fact of life." - JD Vance
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:32 AM
Sep 16

Fat-ass should probably stop endangering the public with his brazen, ignorant outdoor activities.

rainin

(3,162 posts)
5. When asked about this occurrence or the last one, pivot to talking about sensible gun laws.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:47 AM
Sep 16

Remind people that Obama put in place protections to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, and trump overturned it.

Talk about school shootings. Show these people that we're not afraid to talk about the danger of easy access to guns and guns in the hands of the wrong people.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221


infullview

(1,042 posts)
6. Is it me or do ohers suspect these assasination attempts are orchestrated.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:11 AM
Sep 16

More sympathy free news coverage for Donald please!

dmr

(28,639 posts)
17. No, it isn't just you.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:45 AM
Sep 16

I don't trust any of it. TFG is being too cool (brave?) about it all. Which is totally unlike him.

Demobrat

(9,734 posts)
18. I did believe the first one was real.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:48 AM
Sep 16

But this is just too convenient. Now I’m wondering about both.

birdographer

(2,527 posts)
21. With you on this
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:01 AM
Sep 16

I wondered about the first, but I think the shot was supposed to go wild, like WAY wild, and oops, cut it a little close. But Donnie still knew he was safe, hence the scramble for his shoes (with a man with a gun aiming for him, he wants to get his shoes so no one sees the 2" lifts?) and the insistence that he stick his head up in the line of sight to give his rehearsed "Fight!" yell and wave his fist. And this one? A guy in a BUSH? And what a surprise, no real danger.

He probably has time to schedule another one before the election. We've had one at a rally, one on the golf course....what's left?

BattleRow

(1,139 posts)
24. What an amazing coincidence that a
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:09 AM
Sep 16

bystander was there to take a pic of the fleeing car and license plate...

Surprised this person hasn't been interviewed by the media.

Demobrat

(9,734 posts)
29. What's really amazing to me is that
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:32 AM
Sep 16

the “gunman” knew when and where Trump would be golfing when it wasn’t on any public schedule.

And yet there he was, all set up, ready and waiting. Hmmmm.

Self Esteem

(1,611 posts)
42. Are you really amazed by that? Really?
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:53 PM
Sep 16

That's what amazes you?

Trump spends most his free time golfing and you're somehow amazed that this guy guessed that Trump would be golfing?

Self Esteem

(1,611 posts)
47. Apparently so.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:36 PM
Sep 16

Amazed that a dude spent 12 hours in the trees waiting for Trump to do something he does all the time.

It's like the story of the mom who sends her kid to the bar because the dad didn't come home after work. Not amazing: she just knows his routine without having to need an actual schedule.

Response to Demobrat (Reply #29)

Demobrat

(9,734 posts)
52. Could be that too. Homeless people have found
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:36 PM
Sep 16

worse places to camp. The gun does make it suspicious though.

I just hope the SS says no golf until after the election. And no outdoor rallies.

“We just can’t protect you, dude. Too many crazies with AK-47s. Just a fact of life”

Response to Demobrat (Reply #52)

Demobrat

(9,734 posts)
62. That's what makes it impossible to know what to believe
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:10 PM
Sep 16

Am I a conspiracy theorist if I think it’s well within the realm of possibility that the showman is putting on a show?

Would it be beyond Trump to fake a bloody ear? Why? Everything about Trump is fake.

Most likely scenario to me is the crazies are coming out of the woodwork right now because the election is stirring them up.

But who knows…a liar lies.

Response to Demobrat (Reply #62)

mucholderthandirt

(1,136 posts)
68. All it would take is a sharp fingernail to do the little cut Trump had.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:50 AM
Sep 17

There was no bullet nearly taking his ear off. There was so little blood that I suspect one of the SS agents had a tube of fake blood handy. I saw one grainy picture of the wound that it would be hard to be 100% sure, but it looked little worse than a paper cut. I've scratched my ear with a chipped fingernail and it didn't bleed more than a few drops. Not nearly enough to come down all over my face like that.

If a bullet went by that close, why wasn't anyone behind him hurt? They didn't even get down on the platform (I would have dived for cover at the first shot, I'm not a fool), just sat there.

Demobrat

(9,734 posts)
71. I saw a close up pic where
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 12:43 PM
Sep 17

it looked like there was blood pooling inside the ear. Way too much blood for a tiny scratch that healed perfectly in a few days.

People were hurt and killed. That points to an actual shooting. Or it would - if Trump were not involved. He wouldn’t think twice about murdering a few unimportant rally attendees to make himself look good.

He was ready to murder his VP. Some anonymous local? Pffft. No problem.

Response to Demobrat (Reply #71)

BattleRow

(1,139 posts)
31. What's left?
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:44 AM
Sep 16

Oh,there's no bottom to the pit of dirty tricks.

Interesting that these incidents haven't been perpetrated by immigrants.

TheKentuckian

(25,825 posts)
40. I did...even a bit harshly so but at this point
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:41 PM
Sep 16

I can't rule out that he nicked his own ear on a cufflink and certainly cannot exclude the possibility that the guy in the bushes waiting to be picked up is a plant or a patsy in some lame and desperate attempt to shake up the news cycle.

Moreover, I truly don't give a damn.

Queue up Ivan Drago.

barbtries

(29,729 posts)
20. definitely not just you.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:52 AM
Sep 16

if the first one had not resulted in the death of a human, i would have been skeptical of that. TCFSF is an actor and he's so severely mentally damaged that he literally would not stop at anything in pursuit of not being a loser again.

DENVERPOPS

(9,871 posts)
41. What do they sometimes call these????????
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:50 PM
Sep 16

"Black Flag" ops???????

False Acts created by opposition to focus blame on adversary???????????????

It would make sense, since both of the clowns were right leaning and/or Trumphumper Republicans.......

Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #41)

DENVERPOPS

(9,871 posts)
54. Yea
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:50 PM
Sep 16

happens a lot in Demonstrations as well.....opposing group members join peaceful demonstrators, and then start vandalizing, etc and then runs away like hell so the opposition (Cops) look justified in bashing the peaceful demonstrators. In one of the black lives matter demonstrations, they have a guy with a hammer, just going along breaking out windows. When he finished, he tried to run off.... A reporter followed the guy as he went back to his car and took off....the reporter identified him as opposition to the BLM demonstrators.

Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #54)

DENVERPOPS

(9,871 posts)
57. Do you remember this one by CIA????
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:53 PM
Sep 16

Bay of Pigs?????

The Bay of Pigs Invasion was a failed military landing operation on the southwestern coast of Cuba in 1961 by the United States of America and the Cuban Democratic Revolutionary Front, consisting of Cuban exiles who opposed Fidel Castro's Cuban Revolution, clandestinely financed and directed by the U.S. government.

Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #57)

DENVERPOPS

(9,871 posts)
60. It was a Black Flag operation
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:03 PM
Sep 16

created and implemented by the U.S. CIA........Check the Wiki account of what happened......(Wikipedia)

Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #60)

DENVERPOPS

(9,871 posts)
65. basically
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 12:59 AM
Sep 17

the CIA used exiled cubans to begin to invade Cuba, so the U.S. would have reason to join in and to take on Cuba directly. They just didn't want it to appear for the U.S. to have been the ones to invade Cuba outright.

At least that is as I remember it......

Coexist

(26,152 posts)
7. we're in the US, apparently shooters happen, per his VP
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:12 AM
Sep 16

fact-o-life - thoughts and prayers and then move on, right? isn't that how we handle this shit?

infullview

(1,042 posts)
9. There are a lot of MAGA haters who would love to get rid of Harris/Walz.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:17 AM
Sep 16

Why go after tRump? I think this is about the bullet bump - follow the money, and also it helps his fund raising. I got so many text messages from the DT campaign right after the first one... (my telephone number used to be assigned to a republican cop about 20 years ago so I get all this crap).

Gaytano70

(1,207 posts)
8. No shots fired by "assassin"
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:13 AM
Sep 16

So how the ever loving F is this an assassination attempt?????
So Fing sick of the Fing media 🤬

ProfessorGAC

(69,644 posts)
45. Been Saying The Same For 2 Days
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:15 PM
Sep 16

An assassination plot? Perhaps.
But, an attempt? From what we know now, the guy wasn't prepared to shoot at anything.
If he was taking aim when the SS fired, I'd think that would be precisely what was reported.
I may have missed it, but I haven't even read hecwas in a shooting position. I only read they saw a guy with a gun and reacted.
He hadn't yet "attempted" anything.

Solly Mack

(92,463 posts)
10. Trump is a piece of shit that never should be allowed to hold office again. Thoughts and prayers.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:23 AM
Sep 16

There. Tells the truth while acknowledging yet another gun violence event in the way right-wingers think solves everything.

Just speak the truth about Trump and add thoughts and prayers.

Linda ladeewolf

(328 posts)
11. The perp
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:27 AM
Sep 16

Says he has no money to his name but he has a 25 year old son and two trucks worth a $1000 in Hawaii. Start looking for that secret bank account under his son’s name then. lol. I guess I can’t believe it’s a real attempt, more like the much sought after assassination bounce for trump. I just can’t take it seriously after that debate. “They’re eating the dogs and cats, I saw it on tv!”

DENVERPOPS

(9,871 posts)
61. The mainstream media is ignoring that fact..........
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:07 PM
Sep 16

Again, that makes it perfectly clear, to show the bias of the Mainstream Media being FOR Republicans and ANTI Democrats....

95+% of ALL MEDIA in the U.S. is owned/operated by UBER Wealthy Republicans.........

It also makes both incidents HIGHLY suspicious........

struggle4progress

(120,061 posts)
26. Are assassination attempts interfering with Donald's ability to call in bomb threats to Springfield?
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:23 AM
Sep 16

Update at 11

bhikkhu

(10,754 posts)
27. Some nutjob had a gun in his vicinity
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:27 AM
Sep 16

It seems like that is a call for restricting gun access for nutjobs? Trump's party actively and aggressively fights for the continued access to guns for nutjobs, so if anything they should be looking in the mirror and asking how hard they want to stick to that position.

Response to bhikkhu (Reply #27)

panfluteman

(2,164 posts)
28. After the First Trump Assassination Attempt,
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:29 AM
Sep 16

An assistant to Mary Trump told me that the first assassination attempt was fake / staged, because both parties signed non-disclosure agreements before the incident. So - there's a high probability that this one is fake / staged as well. If Trump isn't careful, some day one of these fake assassins might screw up, and Trump might actually wind up being assassinated - and wouldn't that be a sad day, and a great loss for our country, and the world (sarcasm intended!).

mucholderthandirt

(1,136 posts)
69. This second gunman was supposed to die as well, so he couldn't tell all afterward.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 09:03 AM
Sep 17

It's obvious he was mentally ill, probably had someone whispering shit in his ear, getting him all worked up, helped him set up at the course. No risking shots this time, "see" the gun barrel and start shooting. Don't wait, don't investigate, shoot to kill. Another sap they couldn't even realistically tie to the Dems (OOPS!), dead and beyond questioning.

I swear, the Republicans are being run by the Keystone Cops. The gang that couldn't shoot straight. If they didn't control the media, they couldn't keep a story relevant for more than five minutes. Everybody would be talking nonstop about how awful Trump and the MAGA idiots are, Harris would be ahead by 70% in every single poll. Hell, Biden would have been ahead by 70%!

Blue for the win

(55 posts)
33. 🐖🐖🐖🐖🐖🐖🐖
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:24 PM
Sep 16

I doubt the assassination attempt was even real. It's just him looking for attention because he's losing this race big time and they're desperately grasping for straws or in this case AR-15s

Grokenstein

(5,820 posts)
37. I seem to recall another fascist who survived an attempt on his life.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 02:51 PM
Sep 16

The rest of the world didn't let him off the hook; they still dealt him--and his cult--the fate he deserved.

jamesatemple

(353 posts)
38. I'm sending him my thoughts and prayers.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 03:57 PM
Sep 16

Hey, don't laugh. That's quite a feat for a secular humanist. And just about as effective as Trump was as President.

calimary

(84,117 posts)
48. YES, you DAMN WELL CAN!!!
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:16 PM
Sep 16

You have it in YOUR power in the privacy of the voting booth, or at your desk or the kitchen table. It's YOUR decision, and YOUR privacy, and YOUR rights.

William Gustafson

(346 posts)
55. I am still trying to wrap my head around the fact that SS could see a rifle barrel....
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:50 PM
Sep 16

sticking out of the bushes at 400 yards... 400 yards is 1,200 feet.... 4 football fields.... someone sure has damn good eyesight to pick out a less than 1" barrel at 400 yards.... I doubt I could see it, and my eyesight is good.... seems like a set up to me....

tulipsandroses

(6,166 posts)
66. I'm not intimidated. Trump is a threat to democracy. He is a hateful bigot
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 01:47 AM
Sep 17

I still say Fuck trump. I’m glad he wasn’t killed so I can watch him defeated by a woman. A woman of color is even sweeter.
I hope no one plays into their BS. They don’t get to own the narrative. Tell us to not criticize trump while he continues to spew hate.

Historic NY

(37,792 posts)
67. I'm waiting to find out that there were no bullets.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:23 AM
Sep 17

in the suspects weapon.Where did he get it Florida or NC.

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