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Dennis Donovan

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Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:34 AM Monday

Susanne Craig: The medals on Trump's jacket in his NY Military Academy grad photo? They belonged to a friend

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Susanne Craig
The medals on Donald Trump’s jacket in his New York Military Academy grad photo? They belonged to a friend. “He’s wearing my medals on his uniform,” one cadet said. An excerpt from Lucky Loser, my new book out this week with @russbuettner

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Donald Trump Has Always Been Obsessed With Status—Even If He Had to Borrow It

In an excerpt from their new book Lucky Loser, Russ Buettner and Susanne Craig recount how an adolescent Trump craved undeserved praise and authority at the New York Military Academy, where he mysteriously rose through the ranks despite habitually shirking his duties. “His father was rich,” one classmate recalls, “and he was protected.”

By Russ Buettner and Susanne Craig

September 16, 2024

A couple of months after his thirteenth birthday, Donald Trump rode in his father’s Cadillac sixty miles north to rural Orange County, New York, just outside tiny Cornwall-on-Hudson. The car pulled into a narrow drive that led to the quadrangle of the New York Military Academy, a spread of grass about eighty yards long framed by three low-slung buildings: one for classes, one for sleeping, one for eating. That quad would be the center of his universe for the rest of his childhood. He would rarely again enjoy the comforts of the big house in Queens that his father had built for the family and staffed with help. He would no longer be called a student; he was now a cadet. He was issued an M1 rifle with the firing pin removed, a set of military like uniforms, and a single bed in Wright Hall, the smaller barracks for seventh- and eighth-grade boys.

Donald would be allowed to leave those grounds overnight only for major holidays and summers. His parents, Fred and Mary, made frequent trips north on weekends to take him off campus for a meal. During one visit, Mary cornered the mother of another student in his grade, George Michael Witek, who had easily transitioned to the academy from a strict Catholic school in Massachusetts. Donald’s mother seemed distraught and begged Mrs. Witek for a magic solution to make her insolent son listen, Witek later told Foreign Policy magazine.

As a resident of Wright Hall, Donald fell under the command of Theodore Dobias, a stout man and avid boxer who had graduated from the academy, served with the U.S. Army in World War II, and then returned to Cornwall for the rest of his working life. Given the honorary rank of major, Dobias was known among the students as “the Maj.” He lived in a house on campus with his wife and children and kept plaques on his office walls with motivational phrases like “Blame attitude for failure.” From Dobias’s perspective, young Donald, accustomed to a house with full-time help, did not know how to take care of himself, Dobias, who died in 2016, later told NPR. Donald was taught how to shine his shoes and make his bed to military boot-camp standards. When he failed to meet those standards, or stepped out of line, Dobias smacked him.

His days were ruled by rigid adherence to the clock. Loudspeakers blasted reveille at 6:00 a.m. The young boys of Wright Hall made their way to a communal bathroom in the basement, a tiled area with shower heads, toilets, and urinals, and no privacy partitions. After dressing in their uniforms, they would hustle outside to the quadrangle by 6:30 a.m., assembling in columns and grouped by platoon. The flag would be raised. They would march to the mess hall, and after eating, they would march back to their barracks to face a possible inspection. Then they would march to classes, mostly in the academic building, with its toy castle-like turrets rising at its corners and flanking its entrance. After classes, they would clean their neutered M1 rifles. On the open acres north of the quad, they would practice handling the weapon while marching, and then march some more. At about 3:00 p.m., everyone played sports, followed by showers and dinner in their uniforms. After eating, they marched back to the barracks for an enforced study period. The bugle would blow taps at 9:30 p.m. A census would be taken of cadets in their darkened rooms. Day was done.

/snip


Stolen valor, even at such a young age. No wonder he disparages those who actually served.
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Susanne Craig: The medals on Trump's jacket in his NY Military Academy grad photo? They belonged to a friend (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Monday OP
What's up? That's certainly not a photo? brush Monday #1
There's a photo on the site below. Sorry, I don't know how to post it. Medals galore. Vinca Monday #5
What I do is take a screenshot PCIntern Monday #7
Thanks. I'm a bit of a technophobe, but once I'm trained I'm good to go. Vinca Monday #8
It can be a bit daunting at times PCIntern Monday #9
What I notice is that in the pics where his hands are free and in view ms liberty Monday #14
Personally believe he clenches and makes fists because he's self-conscious about allegorical oracle Monday #17
no paywall link... Think. Again. Monday #2
Thanks! I didn't know that! Dennis Donovan Monday #15
Would J.D. Vance call that "stolen valor"? oasis Monday #3
He will shrug it off newdeal2 Monday #12
JD Vance is a liar, a hypocrite, and a self-serving opportunist, but he'd be right here. bluesbassman Monday #13
Kick dalton99a Monday #4
The G.O.P. felon/rapist has always been a lying skuzzball BoRaGard Monday #6
What is he writing on the blackboard? imanamerican63 Monday #10
How is there a photo of him at 11 and this in the text malaise Monday #11
No wonder he doesn't know beans about civics, history, grammar, or allegorical oracle Monday #16
It does seem like a regimen that would stunt a cadet's social development. wnylib Monday #22
Beyond the wearing medals that were not his, there has been distortion in what that school was karynnj Monday #18
Damien Thorne of "The Omen" went to a military academy. Girard442 Monday #19
Yes. There was a book published during the 2016 campaign wnylib Monday #23
By no means defending this, but his father Fred must have been horrible. CoopersDad Monday #20
It's incredibly shocking! MorbidButterflyTat Monday #21
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Monday #24

PCIntern

(26,395 posts)
7. What I do is take a screenshot
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 08:07 AM
Monday

Save it then go to postimages and upload it, go to Direct Link which appears under the photo and copy and paste on the post I’m constructing.

I’m certain others have a “much better way of doing this “.

ms liberty

(9,558 posts)
14. What I notice is that in the pics where his hands are free and in view
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 08:40 AM
Monday

He has them clenched. It's a team photo, and his hands are clenched. Why so angry inside, Donny?

allegorical oracle

(2,818 posts)
17. Personally believe he clenches and makes fists because he's self-conscious about
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:26 AM
Monday

his tiny hands/short fingers.

Think. Again.

(15,600 posts)
2. no paywall link...
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:41 AM
Monday
https://archive.is/9ayud

(We can archive articles that haven't been archived yet by pasting the URL of the original source into the top search bar at archive.is)

bluesbassman

(19,663 posts)
13. JD Vance is a liar, a hypocrite, and a self-serving opportunist, but he'd be right here.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 08:38 AM
Monday

Trump is so completely devoid of courage, integrity and character that the ONLY valor he could possess is stolen.

BoRaGard

(2,168 posts)
6. The G.O.P. felon/rapist has always been a lying skuzzball
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 08:01 AM
Monday

republicans think that is a good role model for their "Innocent little Christian children"?

imanamerican63

(14,181 posts)
10. What is he writing on the blackboard?
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 08:12 AM
Monday

I will not cheat. I will not lie! I will not assault anyone!

Oh the possibilities!

malaise

(275,324 posts)
11. How is there a photo of him at 11 and this in the text
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 08:19 AM
Monday

or is that photo from another school?

Trump's parents sent him to the New York Military Academy when he was 13 because of his acting up.

allegorical oracle

(2,818 posts)
16. No wonder he doesn't know beans about civics, history, grammar, or
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:24 AM
Monday

human relations. All he did was march and play soldier. Have read that he did excel at bowling and baseball.

karynnj

(59,802 posts)
18. Beyond the wearing medals that were not his, there has been distortion in what that school was
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:34 AM
Monday

It was not a junior "military academy" with high admission standards. It was essentially a reform school for wealthy privileged children whose parents and the school they were attending could not control.

wnylib

(23,645 posts)
23. Yes. There was a book published during the 2016 campaign
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:47 AM
Monday

which described the school that Trump attended and why his parents sent him there. I forget the title, but it was written by two Washington Post reporters who researched Trump's life and interviewed people who had known him at various locations and times in his life.

[EDIT to add that I looked up the book and there is a link to it at the end of this post.]

Before being sent to the military Academy, Trump had been in legal trouble several times. He used to go into Manhattan on weekends and hang out with thug type kids his age or older. He had been picked up by cops more than once but received privileged treatment because of Fred, who intervened and could hire lawyers to keep Donny from serious consequences that would reflect badly on the family and on Fred's businesses.

So Fred and Mary sent Donny to a reform school style military academy in the hope that the discipline there would "straighten him out." Donny hated it and complained that his family had rejected and abandoned him. He encountered kids there who came from richer families and realized that Fred's wealth was peanuts next to some of them. He envied them.

I read the book when it came out and don't remember every detail now. I do remember that it said that Trump learned to meet the letter of the rules to make himself look good, but developed ways to manipulate the rules to his advantage so that he could get away with harassing classmates and exerting control over them.

Kind of explains his mixed feelings about the military. He loves the image of power in uniforms and weapons, but despises anyone who takes military service seriously enough to serve.

Instead of Trump being "straightened out" by his military academy discipline, he learned to hate rules except for how he could manipulate them. Hates discipline and any kind of restraints on him.

Link to book description mentioned in this post:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Revealed#:~:text=Trump%20Revealed%3A%20An%20American%20Journey,in%20hardcover%20format%20by%20Scribner.







CoopersDad

(2,727 posts)
20. By no means defending this, but his father Fred must have been horrible.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:02 AM
Monday

To have become such a bully cheater at such a young age, I imagine he was trained and conditioned to cheat, lie, and most importantly to be mean.

"You gotta be OFFENSIVE, boy. Don't wait for reasons to have become defensive-- beat them to the punch."
"If you're caught lying attack, don't back down, lie bigger. The biggest liars win."

Or shit like that. I suspect both are bad seeds, really bad seeds.

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