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Pototan

(1,753 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 04:47 AM Monday

How much responsibility is on Trump?

Last edited Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:28 AM - Edit history (1)

Trump is a former President and the Republican nominee in 2024. He deserves Secret Service protection. But, when they tell him that outdoor rallies result in increased risk to him and them, Trump should try to abide by their recommendations. There is no reason Trump can't have the same rallies indoors. The same goes for "spur of the moment" plans. "It looks like a good day for golf. Let's go". Trump should consider the risk. If there is going to be a golf outing, especially at one of his own properties, give 24 hours' notice and shut the place down to all other outside guests. Give the Secret Service enough time to secure the perimeter.

It seems to me that Trump takes far too many unnecessary risks and then blames everyone else when something happens. Let's face it, all 4 candidates and President Biden are all at risk from some crazed lunatic. But it seems as though everyone else but Trump, reduces those risks.

Both close call incidents happened because Trump wants outdoor rallies in difficult to secure venues or makes impulsive decisions as he did Sunday. He should be required to choose easier to secure indoor venues or airport tarmacs, and golf with proper notice. The problem is, Trump wants to do what he wants, when he wants.

No one should be subject to danger for seeking public office. But those people who require protection need to let the professionals make the hard decisions to reduce those risks, especially during the few months leading up to the election.

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Walleye

(33,927 posts)
1. Also, he has yet to publicly contemn the violence. That's a big part of it I think.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:17 AM
Monday

Even when a guy did shoot at him, he didn’t come out and say, people let’s tone it down, or anything. He used it as a badge of honor. He doesn’t know what the word honor means.

HagathaCrispy

(55 posts)
2. How many damn posts are going to be on this?
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:51 AM
Monday

30,000 Americans over 30,000 Americans die at the hands of gun violence every single year and I don't see 20 news articles about them.

canetoad

(17,813 posts)
5. So, you missed
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:33 AM
Monday

Michael Jackson's death on DU?

To paraphrase Mozart in Amadeus. There will be just as many posts as it needs.

mucholderthandirt

(807 posts)
6. About the same as on any other topic: fifty or so. You seem new, get used to it. This is how forums work anywhere.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:34 AM
Monday

LeftInTX

(29,018 posts)
3. I wish we could hold him accountable. Unfortunately, he and all the GOP blame "Biden's Secret Service"
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:10 AM
Monday

His golf course is not secure.

canetoad

(17,813 posts)
7. It all seems to be part
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:37 AM
Monday

Of his narcisism, his god complex and his overbearing hubris.I wonder how those who are responsible for keeping him safe feel about their lives being endangered without good reason.

Lonestarblue

(11,327 posts)
8. Trump would never shut one of his golf courses down because it would cost him money.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:48 AM
Monday

He just believes that we the taxpayers should pay to have extraordinary security around him so he can do anything he wants whenever he wants. His Secret Service costs are already probably double or triple the other three candidates combined because of his selfishness.

I don’t want him to become a martyr, but I don’t want to pay for his upkeep either.

Emile

(27,688 posts)
9. I brought this up with a right-wing relative and what it's
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:57 AM
Monday

costing the US tax payers to protect his fat ass. My relative said we can afford it because President Trump never accepted a salary.

The secret service golf cart fees alone (that were paid to Trump) was more than his salary.

Pototan

(1,753 posts)
10. Doesn't it just make sense
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:17 AM
Monday

That Trump not take additional risks that have nothing to do with the election? Can't he just golf a lot less and make sure the course is secured and have rallies in enclosed venues?

It's not a lot to ask for considering it's only a few months.

BlueKota

(3,007 posts)
12. Tfg also should tone down his rhetoric
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 08:47 AM
Monday

and quit promising things he can't deliver. It sounds like the attempted shooter was a disappointed former fan. Not excusing attempted shooter's actions just speculation on his motives.

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