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Last edited Sun Sep 15, 2024, 11:01 PM - Edit history (1)
or is it just me
ETA> for those who have missed most of the posts on DU today, I am referring to how quickly many have latched onto or added to conspiracy theories about the apparent attempt to assassinate Trump today. Not to mention a blase attitude that some political assassinations may be tolerable.
obamanut2012
(27,410 posts)sarisataka
(20,332 posts)can act in the same manner that we say we despise when others do the same.
Fla_Democrat
(2,567 posts)LauraInLA
(955 posts)sarisataka
(20,332 posts)Just read many of the replies
LauraInLA
(955 posts)Sadly, I've gotten used to it, so I'm not embarrassed, just disappointed, particularly in the posts that seem to call for arresting or banning Trump and Vance. Echoes of "lock her up" that we hated and should still hate.
Arne
(3,426 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,720 posts)Silent Type
(5,564 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,585 posts)Autumn
(45,797 posts)However I have been known to be wrong once or twice.
BeyondGeography
(39,813 posts)Between banning assault weapons, age restrictions on sales of said weapons and universal background checks chances are very high these two attempts on Dear Leader would not have happened.
We want everyone to be safer. Republicans fight us tooth-and-nail on laws that would protect all Americans. This is the world they asked for, not us.
arlyellowdog
(1,154 posts)I mean, come on, I hate Taylor Swift by a successor to George Washington, Lincoln, and FDR. Embarrassing.
Autumn
(45,797 posts)sarisataka
(20,332 posts)on behalf of those who seem to feel no shame in hypocrisy
Autumn
(45,797 posts)by the actions of other people.
Kaleva
(37,611 posts)So this is apparently nothing new .
niyad
(118,025 posts)Kaleva
(37,611 posts)"Why we have this rule: Democrats are supposed to be part of the "reality-based community." Some amount of skepticism toward powerful institutions is healthy and appropriate, but that doesn't mean every paranoid fantasy is true. Posts about mass shootings being "false flag" operations, 9/11 being a controlled demolition, no airplane at the Pentagon, chemtrails, black helicopters, the Illuminati, or other nonsense make us all look like fools. This website may have the word "underground" in our name, but we are not extreme fringe."
And how we stay a "reality-based community" is that we form our opinions based on verified facts and not on what conveniently fits our world view.
Mme. Defarge
(8,412 posts)NewHendoLib
(60,321 posts)Ocelot II
(119,238 posts)sarisataka
(20,332 posts)Just read many of the replies
Ocelot II
(119,238 posts)I didn't participate in that particular fucktangle.
niyad
(118,025 posts)that there are many who have absolutely no clue or context for why we need to be embarrassed. We usually like to be given a reason, or at least a tiny clue, for why we should self-flagellate. Talk about embarrassing!
sarisataka
(20,332 posts)Just read many of the replies
niyad
(118,025 posts)point of my response. Having to scroll down to post 24 to discover what the point of the OP was is NOT helpful.
TBF
(33,347 posts)if you have something to say it would be more helpful if you'd just put it in the OP. This may be ok in the lounge, but in general discussion I don't like to guess what folks are trying to say.
sarisataka
(20,332 posts)but perhaps I am too subtle sometimes
niyad
(118,025 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(50,285 posts)TBF
(33,347 posts)It's not like your comment was bad. You had a legitimate thing to say - folks just don't want to hunt for it.
Scrivener7
(52,106 posts)that the poster found objectionable.
Picaro
(1,678 posts)I used to travel internationally until about 2003 for business. I used to just love explaining the faux folksy, oddly inarticulate George Dubya Bush to Europeans.
We have plenty of things to be proud of in this nation. But, we also have plenty to be embarrassed about.
usonian
(12,324 posts)I snapped it myself off twitler.
First-hand info.
sarisataka
(20,332 posts)However I do not believe Musk is a DU member
usonian
(12,324 posts)Point made if it was specific to DU.
The power of an open question where did I hear that before?
Ive had an OP deleted due to a CT.
Unfortunately, it cant be proven right until documents are de-classified in 25 years.
Live long enough and read history, you find that some conspiracies were indeed true, such as sabotaging peace talks for political points, faked attacks on ships and so on.
Not defending any of this. I backed off speculation, because the shit going down and the speculation on it are all distraction. Intentional distraction.
I posted this Friday, and it got zero recs and replies.
https://democraticunderground.com/10113496
rockbluff botanist
(252 posts)madaboutharry
(41,039 posts)Maybe Im the outsider. I just don't think the incident today was something to be sarcastic about or make jokes about.
LeftInTX
(29,018 posts)madaboutharry
(41,039 posts)I find that beyond comprehension. A person with a lengthy criminal record and obvious mental instability still was able to possess guns.
There is so much wrong with that.
Brainfodder
(7,119 posts)When 600+ people are paid Russian Ops and this isn't being THE TOP STORY?
Our media is for status quo which made them rich media companies in the first place.
Due a reckoning? HELL YES!
Conspiracy theories are lame silly hypotenuses at best?
canetoad
(17,813 posts)Certainly not embarrassed, but I enjoy cryptic crosswords fwiw.
Metaphorical
(2,023 posts)This is a man who has incited violence in order to overturn an election, who has done everything in his power to stoke the fires, and who feels absolutely no remorse in using stochastic violence for his own end. The only reason that he is running again for president is so that he can skip out of multiple fraud, rape, and treason charges and the only reason he has a hope in hell of winning is because he's promising every billionaire out there the keys to the kingdom if he wins, promises that he has no more intent to keep than any other promise he's made.
I do not believe in assassination. It indicates the breakdown of democracy and the rule of law. Having said that, if someone succeeds in taking him out, I won't lose a lot of sleep.
Bev54
(11,415 posts)albacore
(2,502 posts)..only it comes from an unexpected place and directed at him.
I take no joy in that.
I realize that all the whackjobs out there aren't RW whackjobs...
all the lone-wolves aren't necessarily MAGAs.
Since we don't seem to be able to keep military-grade weapons out of the hands of the whackjobs, should we just accept that there will be attempts on all the candidates?
Should we...in trump's own words..."just get over it"?
edisdead
(3,157 posts)LizBeth
(10,575 posts)The initial information was two shooters away from club shot at each other. He put out a vague post. No.... I am not. That is what liars create.
VegasVet
(7,483 posts)Jack Valentino
(436 posts)who believed in '2nd amendment solutions' and had any skill with a rifle while believing in the Constitution....
I have never been an NRA member.
Polybius
(16,870 posts)Except for aliens, that one's true.
applegrove
(121,617 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 16, 2024, 03:19 AM - Edit history (1)
if Trump had been killed today, 37% of Americans would be crazed and dangerous for the rest of their lives. Better that they see their hero age out and die of old age. There is enough violence in the USA. A dead candidate would be horrific.
ForgedCrank
(2,062 posts)many reasons.
So much hate is promoted, and I'm very disappointed that our side is participating in it. We are expected to be better. There is no world where promoting hated and hyperbole is acceptable, let alone shooting at people. I'm disappointed at the mood surrounding all of this. It's not Ok just because the target was Trump. It's evil.
And to think we mock Q and Alex Jones when they come up with the nutty stuff that they do.
LeftInTX
(29,018 posts)Google maps is from 2019, but you can see the house and truck.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NDmTeZdfbDWbn8me8
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Now, I blame all of this on the fact that this guy is certified nuts, but the RW is gonna have a field day with this
Raine
(30,585 posts)LeftInTX
(29,018 posts)Please check in if you could not give a shit whether the newest "attempt" on Trump's life was legit or orchestrated.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19466283
I really don't think this is a joking matter, but no one seems worried about it.
I guess they don't give a shit if we lose the election???
Close your eyes and "don't give a shit"...whatever...not a winning strategy.
Sunsky
(1,855 posts)John Shaft
(639 posts)Heavens to Betsy, how will I ever make it?!!??!??!1111
mucholderthandirt
(807 posts)sarisataka
(20,332 posts)But you are welcome to use yours