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malaise

(275,323 posts)
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 07:52 PM Sunday

Please help me out - I know nothing about weapons

but in the late 70s/early80s during the political violence on this island it was not unusual to hear both AK47s and M16s. Both made horrific noise but they did not sound the same.
How come they don’t know if the suspect fired shots?

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blogslug

(38,461 posts)
3. I thought the Secret Service were the only ones who fired weapons?
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 07:57 PM
Sunday

I could be wrong. This story is moving fast but I think they saw his rifle poking through a bush/fence situation and fired at him before he had a chance to fire his weapon?

LeftInTX

(29,018 posts)
8. That's what they think. They need to confirm there are no bullet shells etc.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:01 PM
Sunday

Relying just on ears isn't 100% accurate. Odds are that he didn't fire.

SoFlaBro

(3,013 posts)
4. Might have had multiple fucking service weapons firing at the MAGA motherfucker making it hard to discern the shit.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 07:58 PM
Sunday

getagrip_already

(16,916 posts)
6. Where did you see m16's were fired?
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:00 PM
Sunday

They have been upgraded to newer weopons, and the ss wouldnt be carrying them.

They may have an automatic rifle, but wouldnt have been an m16.

Reports from the ss said only the agent fired, and the suspect fled.

malaise

(275,323 posts)
11. I did not see that anywhere. I mentioned what we heard back then.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:05 PM
Sunday

I assume that an AK sounds different that what the SS were carrying.
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The suspect looks like a full MAGAt

rsdsharp

(9,830 posts)
7. I suppose it possible that he used a suppressor (commonly and erroneously) called a silencer.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:00 PM
Sunday

There still would have been an audible, if reduced, report, however. It would be an unusual AK-47 that would have a threaded barrel to which a suppressor could be attached.

I think it’s more likely that they know whether he fired. There would have been ejected shell casing at the scene if he fired. There may be reasons why they are not announcing what they know. Hell, we still know very little about the July shooting.

LeftInTX

(29,018 posts)
10. They haven't finished investigating the scene is why.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:05 PM
Sunday

At this point, it doesn't appear there has been evidence he was fired at. Shooter was standing near a busy road.

bottomofthehill

(8,628 posts)
9. It will be very easy to find the answer
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:04 PM
Sunday

They have the gun, they know where the shooter was and they have the shooter.

They can check the gun and the area for shell casings. Also, if they have the shooter so they can do a GSR test to find if he fired the weapon.

sarisataka

(20,332 posts)
12. The reports I have seen say only the Secret Service fired
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:05 PM
Sunday

But if he did, it is quite easy to tell if a gun has been fired recently, if you can physically examine it. The SS may not have told the media everything yet.

Also, given our respect for MSM accuracy, why do we treat every report as the 100% complete truth?

Kaleva

(37,611 posts)
13. No empty casings, full magazine, gun didn't smell like it was recently fired.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:05 PM
Sunday

Would be indications the gun wasn't fired.

Kaleva

(37,611 posts)
16. I think it best to wait for more details to be released
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:15 PM
Sunday

What I mentioned is just some of the ways that could show he didn't fire his weapon but at this time, I don't know if he did or not.

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