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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPlease check in if you could not give a shit whether the newest "attempt"
on Trump's life was legit or orchestrated.
SoFlaBro
(3,013 posts)chicoescuela
(1,369 posts)MontanaMama
(23,850 posts)For real.
sheshe2
(86,068 posts)Brainfodder
(7,119 posts)Response to Brainfodder (Reply #2)
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Brainfodder
(7,119 posts)durablend
(7,674 posts)Might've eaten a dog or cat beforehand as well.
DoBW
(1,652 posts)WGAF
Ferrets are Cool
(21,371 posts)DoBW
(1,652 posts)sheshe2
(86,068 posts)Meadowoak
(5,955 posts)In the primary. He's not a Democrat.
LeftInTX
(29,018 posts)Routh, 58, has an extensive criminal history in North Carolina that includes convictions between 2002 and 2010 of possession of weapons of mass destruction, carrying a concealed gun, hit and run, possession of stolen goods and resisting law enforcement, among other charges.
Routh has a second address in Hawaii.
But hes registered to vote in North Carolina as an unaffiliated voter.
In North Carolina, unaffiliated voters can choose which primary they want to vote in. Routh chose Democrats when he voted this spring. Routh has also made small donations through ActBlue throughout the 2024 election cycle. ActBlue is an online platform used by Democrats for fundraising.
Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article292532509.html#storylink=cpy
The guys is nuts, nuts, nuts. Thinks he's CIA or something.
LauraInLA
(955 posts)NeverTrumper than a Dem, just looking for anyone who could beat Trump.
BigDemVoter
(4,466 posts)They would never let it go if it happened to be a Democrat. . .
et tu
(1,696 posts)c'mon do your research m
Emile
(27,688 posts)Republicans will try to spin it, and their stupid base will swallow their bullshit.
Gaytano70
(768 posts)Another blatantly staged event to distract and suck money from the cult
NoMoreRepugs
(10,228 posts)Think. Again.
(15,600 posts)putting the hard liquor in it lol
Think. Again.
(15,600 posts)Hey did ya hear trump went golfing again today? That must have been nice.
et tu
(1,696 posts)bless his heart~
Think. Again.
(15,600 posts)et tu
(1,696 posts)quit spiking the coffee lol now i'm searching for mine~
ProfessorGAC
(68,412 posts)He loves to cheat at golf.
If he loved the game, he'd work on improving. He just cheats more now that he's older.
TheProle
(2,713 posts)But because of what it says about our political climate.
Think. Again.
(15,600 posts)...I don't know yet if this guy was a magat, but apparently shooting at trump is just part of this election cycle.
TheProle
(2,713 posts)wnylib
(23,645 posts)take shots at him? What is TSF saying or doing that's got RWers riled up enough to try to shoot him?
Think. Again.
(15,600 posts)ShazzieB
(17,978 posts)prodigitalson
(2,747 posts)Think. Again.
(15,600 posts)HARMONYJADE
(2 posts)That made me laugh out loud. Thanks, I needed that.
Bird Lady
(1,884 posts)much less build what I think all that stuff is for.
rampartd
(161 posts)she was just too stupid to arm the timers.
Wounded Bear
(60,046 posts)but mostly I'm meh.
ShazzieB
(17,978 posts)Where I am not is on the conspiracy theory bus. Not planning to board any time soon, if ever.
RockRaven
(15,906 posts)Boo hoo!
orleans
(34,553 posts)you won't be responding to his campaign's two emails and send him some money
Demsrule86
(70,658 posts)dchill
(39,703 posts)Won't get fooled again!
Silent Type
(5,564 posts)wnylib
(23,645 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:38 AM - Edit history (1)
the first guy was a RWer. This one might be, too, or a former Trump supporter. What would make two different followers angry enough to want to shoot him?
It's convenient that a neighbor was on hand to get a photo shot of the guy and his car.
As far as I can see, it could be fake or real. Trump is capable of setting something up for his own purposes, i.e. draw attention away from events in the current news cycle. Or get his followers riled up. Condition people to expect violence against him in this campaign to justify Trump calling upon his people to be armed and ready to defend him.
Not saying that it was fake, just that he's capable of doing something like that.
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LoisB
(8,012 posts)helpisontheway
(5,116 posts)the babies getting shot in schools then I dont give a shit about them.
debm55
(30,810 posts)Unwind Your Mind
(2,113 posts)And tsf does have a history of trying to steal the news cycle
Different Drummer
(8,230 posts)Mossfern
(2,919 posts)but somehow I can't bring myself to care.
This is very unlike me.
DinahMoeHum
(22,289 posts)PufPuf23
(9,117 posts)FarPoint
(13,297 posts)Let's move on...MSM is shoving it's down our throats but.. listening to football...Anything but MSM.
brewens
(14,972 posts)0rganism
(24,382 posts)By the time we have enough info to make a decent guess either way, something at least as dramatic and idiotic will happen and we'll all move on to the next shiny new distraction.
Figarosmom
(714 posts)Followers. I say again you reap what you sow. No I don't give a fuck.
canetoad
(17,813 posts)San Francisco Temple members thought Jonestown would be a communist utopia, but it became a vacuum of reason where Jones paranoia played out unfettered.
https://www.denverpost.com/2011/10/13/jim-jones-deception-and-despair/
tetedur
(950 posts)EXACTLY!
marble falls
(60,182 posts)uppityperson
(115,722 posts)Caps is different?
B.See
(2,817 posts)brought America TO, and what his dictatorship would BRING TO America.
Hate, violence, discord, rancor, divide, and chaos.
kairos12
(13,131 posts)fuck. He sent the 2nd Amendment Krazies to get Hillary.
agingdem
(8,417 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(151,967 posts)Bitbit
(116 posts)Betty Boom
(67 posts)And no fucks left to give
Autumn
(45,797 posts)One reaps what one sows. I got no fucks to give either way.
DaBronx
(435 posts)But I must say I was busy and upon hearing I had no desire or even curiosity to learn the details.
We are all numb I suppose thanks to his years of abuse of our country.
Sailingdiver
(162 posts)niyad
(118,025 posts)video in honour of this highly insignificant(at least until we get some real detals) incident? Thomas Benjamin Wild, Esq.
Thanks in advance.
paleotn
(18,770 posts)Apparently, the assailant is a nutter with a history of firearms charges among other things. And a...I suppose former ....Trump supporter.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1322&pid=39225
iemanja
(54,046 posts)until proven otherwise.
Aepps22
(262 posts)Anything that distracts from GOTV efforts I don't care about.
RidinWithHarris
(402 posts)But speculating in a vacuum without evidence is pointless, no matter how suspicious the attack might seem.
LeftInTX
(29,018 posts)He gave some donations to Act Blue in 2024.
There is a Biden Harris bumper sticker on his work truck.
Google maps is from 2019, but you can see the house and truck.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NDmTeZdfbDWbn8me8
Think. Again.
(15,600 posts)LeftInTX
(29,018 posts)The primary you vote in is public record. He voted in the Democratic Primary. We don't know who he voted for. But Haley would not be on the ballot.
I can check and see if any Democrats "wrote in" Haley.
Checked and no Democrats "wrote-in" Haley.
https://www.guilfordcountync.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/14809/638515593416730000
Think. Again.
(15,600 posts)...vote in open Democratic primaries to screw with the ticket. Good catch!
LeftInTX
(29,018 posts)truck.
Think. Again.
(15,600 posts)It took me months before I finally got around to removing an nra sticker from a used truck I bought once.
LeftInTX
(29,018 posts)Say what you want....Interpret this is "how he was thinking,"
I'm looking at optics and that's his truck today.
Think. Again.
(15,600 posts)...the same shot taken from 2019 googlemaps at the link you provided shows a different truck.
BlueKota
(3,007 posts)and he was sending tweets to Haley during primary season about who he wanted her to pick as her VP. On FB account he posted that he voted for Trump in 2016, but apparently he became disappointed in him.
Seems oddly similar to the previous' would be assassins story.
RidinWithHarris
(402 posts)It might bear on motive for orchestrating such a thing (pick a guy who's willing to pose as a Democrat for the job), or it could show motive for the guy to attempt this on his own.
As to the original question, whether I "give a shit whether the newest 'attempt' on Trump's life was legit or orchestrated", yes, I suppose I'd also care if the attempt was real and could be blamed on a Democrat. That's bad for us if true.
The "if true" part, of course, matters not a bit to how Republicans want to spin the story.
LeftInTX
(29,018 posts)As to whether this total nutjob embraced Democratic values is dubious.
However, It's how they're able to spin this.
Demobrat
(9,606 posts)He wouldnt give a fuck if I got shot.
PortTack
(33,978 posts)crim son
(27,497 posts)As long as tRump is the alleged target, it's all good.
Dem2theMax
(10,063 posts)He couldn't take a chance on actually being hit.
So, 'shots in the area.'
And look how quickly the MSN goes back to covering the orange shitgibbon.
Even his friends don't like him.
Lemon Lyman
(1,442 posts)Giddeyup
The Third Doctor
(346 posts)And now they are living in fear. Trump even doubled down on it. Bomb threats and school shutdowns? No sympathy.
HagathaCrispy
(55 posts)I don't give a flying fuck.
BlueKota
(3,007 posts)except the safety of our Democratic candidates and their winning the election. I hope this won't help his campaign. It scares me that it might.
LeftInTX
(29,018 posts)BlueKota
(3,007 posts)I just don't want him to win. Seriously that's all that matters to me.
bsiebs
(738 posts)Hope22
(2,378 posts)Is a mobby thing to do. It sounds about par for the course. I actually do care if TSF is behind it! Silly me. This isnt a TV show .
Wiz Imp
(420 posts)There has been no information released that would truly support the description of "assassination attempt", let alone any proof. All we get are contradicting "reports" that this happened or that happened or some other thing happened and this law enforcement agency said this and somebody else said something a little bit different. What the news media should be reporting is an "incident" happened around Trumps golf course property for which the details are not clear and let it go at that until fully official word from the Federal Government is released on what happened. But that would be responsible journalism. The current MSM does not do that.
Beachnutt
(7,930 posts)that he shafted over the years.
Martin68
(24,049 posts)Either way, I really doubt it was planned by Dump or his team. Let's leave the wild conspiracy theories to the idiots on the other side. Otherwise, bring on the evidence and change my mind. I'm, a strong believer in Occam's Razor.
gordianot
(15,432 posts)So far two assination attempt of a man running for President who openly says he wants to be a dictator. The last two Potential assassins appear to be as weird as Trump. The constant lies Donald Trump, Vance, and company are a constant source of frustration. The weirdos abound.
gordianot
(15,432 posts)So far two assination attempt of a man running for President who openly says he wants to be a dictator. The last two Potential assassins appear to be as weird as Trump. The constant lies Donald Trump, Vance, and company are a constant source of frustration. The weirdos abound.
Tribetime
(5,658 posts)There's no way this guy with his convictions.Should have been able to ever get an assault rifle
Warpy
(112,778 posts)or something else we Democrats can't possibly be held responsible for . The last thing I want is some muzzy headed, half hinged freak to kill him off and turn him into some kind of martyr.
I'd rather his heart, liver, or head explodes after a lifetime of a 10 year old's favorite diet. Or he gets pooked enough about the prospect of prison that he spends the rest of his life in the UAE where it's hot and there's plenty of golf.
I don't care, I want him gone and the chaos with him. I just don't ever want him killed. Ever.
Bird Lady
(1,884 posts)Just another attempt at misdirection. To take the debate and his mental decline out of this news cycle.
Both of these attempts are to garner sympathy from the braindead pinheads that follow him.
JayDem
(17 posts)IMHO the original assassination attempt story and this latest incident both ring untrue to me. At this stage of the game, I wouldn't put anything past the former liar-in-chief.
RainCaster
(11,298 posts)Really.
I
don't
give
a
shit
SunSeeker
(53,144 posts)That is a constant.
Judi Lynn
(161,903 posts)ArmedLiberal24
(54 posts)If they put some thought into it, he would not know anything about it unlike last time. Still does not matter. Hey Stevie. You can only cry wolf once. Even the most stupid of MAGA wont believe this one. Not even his royal Orange Pudding the First . TRE45ON.
barbtries
(29,421 posts)that this probable theater is being given so much air time. it's alarming to me that the craziness is going so far afoul of normalcy.
I don't think I even saw a thread discussing what Kamala and her running mate were doing today.
i don't like this at all.
D23MIURG23
(3,013 posts)Political violence is wrong, but I think it's probably not coincidental that the politician who has been most flippant about inciting his followers to violence is now being targeted by it. People died on January 6th, and immigrants in OH are currently being targeted on his say so.
DFW
(55,934 posts)A story saying Shots Fired in a state whose governor wants everybody to be openly carrying a loaded firearm doesnt deserve a headline. If in the paper at all, it should be a three line blurb in the back between the crossword puzzle and the sports section.
harumph
(2,144 posts)We've become so normalized to the absolute insanity and I don't think most Americans care what happens to Trump - just as long as he goes away and we can exit this fever dream that he and his comrades have constructed for us. An annoying feature of our daily lives has become one hyperventilating headline after another pleading for our attention. It's all so pathetic and insulting.
struggle4progress
(119,416 posts)John Shaft
(639 posts)I'd ask, "did they get him?"
The guy started his day with hate, "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT" and hate followed him throughout the day. This rests on the shoulder of Trump. He stimulates hate in our society. Through lies, he has sicced his foot soldiers on an innocent immigrant community who are just trying to realize their American dream. I find it telling that both shooters seem to have leaned to the right. Nobody likes this guy outside of his cult members. He's now left with the support of his dwindling but very loud maga cult.
This doesn't mean I condone what happened because I'm not hate-filled and morally bankrupt like DJT.
mucholderthandirt
(807 posts)The first time was one of his own believers, but they played that down. Now it's some dude who is more obviously mentally ill, and convenient. Serves the narrative better.
I am curious how he knew Trump was going to be on the course, since it hadn't been announce and only decided on being there about an hour before. If this dude was stalking Trump, apparently set up outside Mar-a-Lardo, why didn't the SS team spot this? That is their job, after all. How was this guy able to set up so conveniently outside a very public area with bags and a gun, and no one noticed? How is it that when he fled, people saw him, with no idea who he was, got his description and that of his vehicle, and even took pictures showing the license plate? Apparently all within minutes of the SS agent "noticing" a gun barrel in some bushes, over 100 yards away?
Hopefully some real news about a real investigation will come out. Then we can have Congress spending time on more hearings instead of passing the spending budget, if it ever gets out of the House. Good work, guys!
LeftInTX
(29,018 posts)It's only secured with chain link fence, that's covered with vegetation. It's next to the jail.
I bet the guy who saw him flee had a dashboard camera.
Vinca
(50,744 posts)They said something about him having a long criminal record so the big question is why are there so many guns on the street that any Tom, Dick and lunatic can get one.
tavernier
(13,031 posts)Oh wait
they didnt. Those were from the other candidates.
So no. No shits given.
TommieMommy
(629 posts)samnsara
(18,088 posts)pure bullshit. I do not feel this was a legit 'assassination attempt'...i go with the initial reports of two men outside the golf course, in a neighborhood known for high crime, exchanging shots. Then all of a sudden all the headlines were the same...
i smell a vance
dwayneb
(819 posts)This was planned. And it's going to hurt Harris at a time when she can least afford any setback.
Omnipresent
(6,130 posts)The Palm Beach County Sheriffs Department has patrol cars blocking the four lane road called, Summit Blvd, off of Congress Ave, which is the only street entrance to the Trump international golf course.
I guess they havent been able to wrap up their investigation??
ecstatic
(33,982 posts)I've been hearing about this "attempt" non-stop since yesterday evening. If it was a staged shooting then the public should know about it and there should be legal consequences. Hopefully trump would finally be forced to go to jail.
Scrivener7
(52,106 posts)they present a danger to anyone who is in the vicinity when they happen. One person is dead.
And I violently resent him turning our political system into some kind of thunderdome circus.
I care.
Martin Eden
(13,222 posts)Exposing the orchestration before the election would likely seal the deal.
I think it's more likely the story is as reported -- a man with a criminal record and apparent mental health issues had access to an assault rifle and the perimeter of a property that is not very secure.
Why do I give a shit about that?
I do NOT want Trump assassinsted.
Increasingly, he is an albatross around the neck of the Republican Party. They deserve to stew in the stench of that rotting carcass from this point forward at least as long as they have been poisoning the soul of America with that vile orange abomination.
housecat
(3,135 posts)Maybe the alleged would-be shooter just had a concept of a plan
MorbidButterflyTat
(2,463 posts)What I DO give a shit about, and am really sick of, is being scolded repeatedly for expressing doubts about the legitimacy of reports about another "assassination attempt" made by someone who didn't even fire a shot. So like, an attempted assassination attempt?
Having legitimate doubts about the pathological liar and convicted felon is NOT a GD conspiracy theory. If that means I'm not "better than that," too effing bad.
ProfessorGAC
(68,412 posts)An assassination plot that was foiled? Yes.
But, I don't see how it meets the definition of an attempt.
get the red out
(13,515 posts)I need to find where to early vote. I personally don't think anyone around Trump is smart enough to set up a "false flag" for sympathy though.
Conjuay
(1,859 posts)If Vance moves to the top of the ticket
CousinIT
(9,729 posts)This is on him. All of it.
claudette
(4,228 posts)what happens to private citizen Dumpy Orange Felon.
brush
(56,318 posts)BrightKnight
(3,675 posts)Dennis Donovan
(22,192 posts)I beg that it's free of assassination "attempt" coverage.
Please... for the love of God.
Wait - Secret Service presser @ 4pm? Kill me now...
Nixie
(17,319 posts)know is just a convenient opportunity to have an ego conference with "journalists" who will call it a press conference.
I'm waiting for news of a secret service notice to trump that he should quit inciting violence, so the SS agents don't have to go through all this bullshit.
Can't wait to turn the page on this idiot.
Nixie
(17,319 posts)know is just a convenient opportunity to have an ego conference with "journalists" who will call it a press conference.
I'm waiting for news of a secret service notice to trump that he should quit inciting violence, so the SS agents don't have to go through all this bullshit.
Can't wait to turn the page on this idiot.
BlueKentuckyGirl
(408 posts)LilyBelle
(11 posts)and I had the TV on with live coverage.
NoSheep
(8,259 posts)not an attempt
hadEnuf
(2,526 posts)pwb
(12,065 posts)Yawn !!