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Eugene

(62,494 posts)
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 01:03 PM Sunday

John Roberts' Secret Trump Memo Revealed in Huge SCOTUS Leak

Original reporting: How Roberts Shaped Trump’s Supreme Court Winning Streak (New York Times)

Alternate link: https://archive.is/4cUJ2#selection-647.0-647.55

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Source: The Daily Beast

John Roberts’ Secret Trump Memo Revealed in Huge SCOTUS Leak

A memo obtained by The New York Times indicated the chief justice wanted to act quick—and decisively—on Donald Trump’s presidential immunity.

Corbin Bolies
Media Reporter
Updated Sep. 15, 2024 10:55AM EDT / Published Sep. 15, 2024 10:33AM EDT

The Supreme Court was hit by a flurry of damaging new leaks Sunday as a series of confidential memos written by the chief justice were revealed by The New York Times.

The court’s Chief Justice John Roberts was clear to his fellow justices in February: He wanted the court to take up a case weighing Donald Trump’s right to presidential immunity—and he seemed inclined to protect the former president.

“I think it likely that we will view the separation of powers analysis differently,” Roberts wrote to his Supreme Court peers, according to a private memo obtained by the Times. He was referencing the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals’ decision to allow the case to move forward.

Roberts took an unusual level of involvement in this and other cases that ultimately benefited Trump, according to the Times—his handling of the cases surprised even some other justices on the high court, across ideological lines. As president, Trump appointed three of the members of its current conservative supermajority.

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Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-roberts-secret-trump-memo-revealed-in-huge-scotus-leak

Alternate link: https://news.yahoo.com/news/john-roberts-secret-trump-memo-143303014.html

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John Roberts' Secret Trump Memo Revealed in Huge SCOTUS Leak (Original Post) Eugene Sunday OP
Kick for visibility. onecaliberal Sunday #1
Resign or better yet malaise Sunday #2
Is seppuku off the table? 11 Bravo Sunday #38
He is way too proud malaise Sunday #39
"i can not live with such shame" rampartd Monday #87
This justices have no honor. Moostache Monday #93
not a "private memo" anymore PedroXimenez Sunday #3
No one here will be even remotely surprised by this Buckeyeblue Sunday #4
Ha! And some still like to pretend this corrupt scumbag is one of the "sane ones". nt Carlitos Brigante Sunday #5
Let's stop calling them 'conservative' superpatriotman Sunday #6
"conservative" has always been the polite euphemism for "RW loon" JHB Sunday #32
Fascist Fucks. Cha Sunday #48
Yup zorbasd Sunday #54
CONSERVATIVE has always been the polite euphemism for Right Wing ASS HOLE !!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Sunday #68
Polite? DFW Monday #86
More like preservatives BattleRow Sunday #41
A true conservative wouldn't set the 200+ year old document that has run America on fire DSandra Sunday #50
Hate that term. they are not conservative in any way in true sense of the word Evolve Dammit Sunday #67
I think regressive would be a better word for them cynical_idealist Monday #94
Chaos agent. Maybe vlad is threatening them and their families? lindysalsagal Sunday #7
And maybe they are just corrupt as hell. Biophilic Sunday #9
Ass, gas, grass or treason. Nobody rides for free. rubbersole Sunday #24
The plan to stuff the courts with RW operatives has been going on since Vlad was still in the KGB JHB Sunday #35
Well Putin did have Clarence Thomas over Farmer-Rick Sunday #74
Who knew? SCrOTUS is part of Trump's conspiracy. Kid Berwyn Sunday #8
I heard all along that Roberts cared about his legacy & reputation. Looks like this is it. Hekate Sunday #10
After studying and working so long and hard to obtain the position, slightlv Sunday #13
It is my hope that it solidifies their resolve MontanaMama Sunday #21
They gave Roberts enough money to put his reputation desires aside... DSandra Sunday #52
I can't even imagine how difficult it must be for them. wordstroken Monday #90
Question for our DU legal scholars: Does this qualify as judicial misconduct? Aristus Sunday #11
Roberts is beholding to Trump for giving his court more power than it may ever have had. patphil Sunday #12
This is bad uponit7771 Sunday #14
I have a question... infullview Sunday #15
John Roberts will go down in history as the worst chief Justice and he, and the remaining Bev54 Sunday #16
And his wife, as the biggest bribe drop box since the Trump D.C. Hotel peppertree Sunday #33
Is it just me, but I think that dress is hideous. ellemb Sunday #55
She thinks she's a flower peppertree Sunday #58
Put a clown hat on her Captain Zero Sunday #83
Roger Taney thanks Roberts Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sunday #62
Pack the court n/t mtngirl47 Sunday #17
Unpack it. It's already packed. JHB Sunday #46
KnR SupportSanity Sunday #18
This should put to rest any doubt moniss Sunday #19
Roberts was one of the vigilantes... GiqueCee Sunday #70
Yes and Billy R moniss Sunday #72
Who is pulling the strings on these puppets? mahina Sunday #20
Wouldn't you be vlad to know... rubbersole Sunday #25
Leonard Leo and friend$. (American oligarchy) Duncan Grant Sunday #47
Nobody. They are true believers. nt BWdem4life Sunday #63
+1, There's **NO DOUBT** organized, NO FREAKING DOUBT uponit7771 Sunday #81
King Rump yankee87 Sunday #22
Kicking. MontanaMama Sunday #23
Roberts wanted his corrupt cohort to ACT QUICK- yeah right PuraVidaDreamin Sunday #26
Worst umpire ever. mountain grammy Sunday #27
Some Umpires say: "I call 'em as they are" Seinan Sensei Sunday #77
Republicans are so stinking corrupt BoRaGard Sunday #28
Is Biden going to do anything about this? Short answer; not likely. IMO -He won't want to jinx the election. flying_wahini Sunday #29
"...and he seemed inclined to protect the former president." J_William_Ryan Sunday #30
Can Kamala name a new Chief Justice if she gets a new nomination? kentuck Sunday #31
Not unless the position is vacant.... tritsofme Sunday #56
Fake justice orangecrush Sunday #34
This is probably why Judge Merchan pushed the date back until after the election. Baitball Blogger Sunday #36
what does putin have on him? smh ecstatic Sunday #37
Isn't he the "moderate" one? Marigold Sunday #40
This isn't justice... BattleRow Sunday #42
As far as this particular case, can't get too excited about Roberts saying the SC should move quickly. It should have, Silent Type Sunday #43
They dragged it out for months to prevent a trial before the election. SunSeeker Monday #85
Why do I think I saw something about this memo weeks ago? dchill Sunday #44
This court must be dismantled UpInArms Sunday #45
John Roberts has to ensure that America turns into Gilead DSandra Sunday #49
FUCK THE IMPARTIAL SHIT Charmin One Sunday #51
These are NOT conservatives; they are reactionaries! They want to go WAY back! raging moderate Sunday #53
K&R. Robert's and the other conservatives are traitors to the ideals of this country. Go elsewhere c-rational Sunday #57
As a card carrying veteran PATRICK Sunday #59
John "Sleazy" Roberts PufPuf23 Sunday #60
Let me guess: Nothing will come of this. polichick Sunday #61
Something always comes from everything BWdem4life Sunday #64
All of these MAGA plants on the SCOTUS think they're untouchable. Keep protecting him!! America is now looking at all 6. ArmedLiberal24 Sunday #65
Impeach the ones who lied under oath at confirmation !!!. TRE45ON. ArmedLiberal24 Sunday #66
Traitor. Belongs in prison. byronius Sunday #69
EXPAND THE COURT spanone Sunday #71
The Times article has fantastic reporting tishaLA Sunday #73
John Roberts sounds delusional. LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #78
Remember when Republicans used to decry "activist judges"? But then again... Beartracks Sunday #75
They are always projecting. We should point that out every time they do it. travelingthrulife Monday #89
How Roberts Shaped Trump's Supreme Court Winning Streak LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #76
This is a big fucking deal! Proof that Roberts is in cahoots with the Trumpists. I look forward to the fallout. Martin68 Sunday #79
This is even worse, Roberts has reported on multiple accessions taking actions to help MAGA agenda. uponit7771 Sunday #80
The only differences between the conservative B.See Sunday #82
Bushies best be worst. czarjak Monday #84
This Golden Nugget def goes into the NYTs Hall of Fame!!! wolfie001 Monday #88
KNR and bookmarking niyad Monday #91
Stunning. NYT hit it out of the park this time. Joinfortmill Monday #92

rampartd

(162 posts)
87. "i can not live with such shame"
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:10 AM
Monday

is what the samaurai said as he prepared for the ritual.

as we have seen, these justices have no shame.

Moostache

(10,043 posts)
93. This justices have no honor.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:55 PM
Monday

It is impossible to embarass, shame or get them to recognize their own malfeasance. You cannot shame them into anything because the concept does not exist in their hideous world.

Buckeyeblue

(5,638 posts)
4. No one here will be even remotely surprised by this
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 01:12 PM
Sunday

It just makes the argument to expand the court even stronger.

superpatriotman

(6,449 posts)
6. Let's stop calling them 'conservative'
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 01:42 PM
Sunday

And work towards term limiting all public servants. No more lifetime appointments.

DSandra

(1,035 posts)
50. A true conservative wouldn't set the 200+ year old document that has run America on fire
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 04:07 PM
Sunday

More like Dangerously Extreme Regressives, wanting to bring a dark ages upon America.

Biophilic

(4,440 posts)
9. And maybe they are just corrupt as hell.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:07 PM
Sunday

I figure they were bought by American oligarchs and they are fine with tearing this country apart.

JHB

(37,282 posts)
35. The plan to stuff the courts with RW operatives has been going on since Vlad was still in the KGB
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 03:11 PM
Sunday

Don't need the Russkies for that.

Farmer-Rick

(10,955 posts)
74. Well Putin did have Clarence Thomas over
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 07:33 PM
Sunday

To visit his golden Palace in 2003. It wouldn't surprise me if Putin has met with all 5 compromised justices.

But yeah, the crazy 5 Supreme Court justices are traitors and sell outs. But nothingo to see here. They just happen to have a bunch of foreign friends who are all so very wealthy and are known dictators and despots.

Hekate

(93,572 posts)
10. I heard all along that Roberts cared about his legacy & reputation. Looks like this is it.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:09 PM
Sunday

The rot goes deep.

I feel sorry for Kagen, Sotomayor, and Jackson-Brown, to have to work with such scum.

slightlv

(3,727 posts)
13. After studying and working so long and hard to obtain the position,
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:17 PM
Sunday

THIS is the court the Democratic women get to serve with. What a let down it must be for them!

MontanaMama

(23,855 posts)
21. It is my hope that it solidifies their resolve
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:31 PM
Sunday

to expose the rot within their ranks. Not only for every single woman in this country but also in memory of RBG.

patphil

(6,759 posts)
12. Roberts is beholding to Trump for giving his court more power than it may ever have had.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:16 PM
Sunday

And so, he returned the favor.

infullview

(1,023 posts)
15. I have a question...
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:19 PM
Sunday

If the senate voted to change the rules so you only need 50+ votes to pass a law, does that include a vote to impeach a judge or does this still take a 2/3rds vote?

Bev54

(11,420 posts)
16. John Roberts will go down in history as the worst chief Justice and he, and the remaining
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:19 PM
Sunday

conservative justices will go down as party to an attempted coup. They all need to go.

peppertree

(22,587 posts)
58. She thinks she's a flower
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 04:26 PM
Sunday

A corpse flower, I'd say (stinks to high heaven - just like their finances).

moniss

(5,023 posts)
19. This should put to rest any doubt
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:30 PM
Sunday

about whether Roberts would take extraordinary steps regarding this defendant. I know people have felt my assertion was rash that he might step in to have the SC take an appeal when the presiding Associate Justice for that jurisdiction had turned it away. This should remove the doubt. This memo is an incredibly inappropriate thing for Roberts to have done.

When you combine the clear demonstration of prejudice on the issues for this defendant along with his absolute absence on the financial and conduct indiscretions of Thomas and Alito there is more than enough reason to justifiably call for his resignation. Remember that this is the same Roberts who declines Congressional inquiry and asserts, along with Alito, that Congress has no authority with the SC other than giving advise and consent for judicial nominations.

GiqueCee

(1,190 posts)
70. Roberts was one of the vigilantes...
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 06:57 PM
Sunday

... that swept in to a Florida elections office to stop the recount even before the corrupt Rehnquist Court handed down its order to do so.

NO judge or justice should have ANY political affiliation, by law, and no politician should have any say in the nomination process, especially the President, who is the most partisan politician in the country.

"Justice Is Blind", my ass.

moniss

(5,023 posts)
72. Yes and Billy R
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 07:08 PM
Sunday

was known to have participated in voter suppression efforts before he moved into being a judge.

Just think how stupid this country looks when just a few years ago if you admitted to having smoked a joint you were immediately declared unfit for high office or the Federal Bench but if you openly and knowingly took part in violating people's voting rights then you were perfectly acceptable. It wasn't until we got past the foolishness of "I didn't inhale" that even a tiny bit of sanity regarding pot use when young came about.

Duncan Grant

(8,406 posts)
47. Leonard Leo and friend$. (American oligarchy)
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 04:00 PM
Sunday

One can’t speak of these things without sounding conspiratorial, but this Roberts memo is interesting evidence.

Bookmarking this thread. I’ll be interested to see what it looks like a year from now.

yankee87

(2,292 posts)
22. King Rump
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:32 PM
Sunday

I am still in disbelief at how fast a country can go into full blown fascism. Maybe we are in end stage capitalism and fascism naturally comes next. I know the people on this forum will fight with their lives to prevent this.

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,211 posts)
26. Roberts wanted his corrupt cohort to ACT QUICK- yeah right
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:53 PM
Sunday

They waited until the last day of the session to announce their decision.

So blatant and in our face they continue to erode Democracy for their friends, the billionaires and
other corporate persons.

Seinan Sensei

(595 posts)
77. Some Umpires say: "I call 'em as they are"
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 09:06 PM
Sunday

Others say: "I call 'em as I see 'em"

Umpire Roberts says: "They are what I call 'em"
No attempt at judicial objectivity.
He moves the ballgame any direction he wants to.

flying_wahini

(7,717 posts)
29. Is Biden going to do anything about this? Short answer; not likely. IMO -He won't want to jinx the election.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:55 PM
Sunday

Will Harris? I sure hope so. If we can win both houses I suspect we will see big changes. If we lose…

J_William_Ryan

(1,969 posts)
30. "...and he seemed inclined to protect the former president."
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 02:59 PM
Sunday

Which is why it’s perfectly appropriate to assume that the Court’s conservatives would act to facilitate installing Trump as president.

kentuck

(112,287 posts)
31. Can Kamala name a new Chief Justice if she gets a new nomination?
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 03:10 PM
Sunday

As I recall, that was the way that Roberts became Chief Justice?

ecstatic

(33,994 posts)
37. what does putin have on him? smh
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 03:13 PM
Sunday

When we have the majority again, we MUST act on the supreme court, electoral college, and all the other urgent democracy-related issues.

Marigold

(61 posts)
40. Isn't he the "moderate" one?
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 03:36 PM
Sunday

So worried about the legitimacy and legacy of the court? I guess this is the source of the stench Sotomayor was speaking of.

Silent Type

(5,583 posts)
43. As far as this particular case, can't get too excited about Roberts saying the SC should move quickly. It should have,
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 03:45 PM
Sunday

but didn't.

dchill

(39,718 posts)
44. Why do I think I saw something about this memo weeks ago?
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 03:47 PM
Sunday

Especially the specific Roberts quote. Anyway, it's not secret anymore, is it.

UpInArms

(51,556 posts)
45. This court must be dismantled
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 03:58 PM
Sunday

These people do not have any allegiance to the constitution or country.

DSandra

(1,035 posts)
49. John Roberts has to ensure that America turns into Gilead
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 04:05 PM
Sunday

And is not going to let a mere Constitution stop him from doing so.

raging moderate

(4,469 posts)
53. These are NOT conservatives; they are reactionaries! They want to go WAY back!
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 04:15 PM
Sunday

They want to go back about a thousand years to the absolute reign of despots, to the era when the rulers believed they should have absolute control because "Might makes Right!" They want Feudalism!

c-rational

(2,808 posts)
57. K&R. Robert's and the other conservatives are traitors to the ideals of this country. Go elsewhere
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 04:24 PM
Sunday

and form your own theological kingdom

PATRICK

(12,238 posts)
59. As a card carrying veteran
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 04:29 PM
Sunday

of the Bush/Cheney cabal this is a reminder how some of the GOP "defectors" are really playing the game. (on edit; Robert in charge of Florida steal 2000 legal team)They protect the goofus for the long game and down ticket and want to scoop them up if they ever can find another ridiculous candidate totally under their control.

 

ArmedLiberal24

(54 posts)
65. All of these MAGA plants on the SCOTUS think they're untouchable. Keep protecting him!! America is now looking at all 6.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 05:45 PM
Sunday

America is fed up with planted SCOTUS members who only care about protecting Trump and other Republicans and Republican issues. These betrayers to the oaths that they have taken not only serve evil people like Trump but evil people including themselves(Clarence). And now the SCOTUS is being observed very closely by the government and by ordinary citizens. These people are so full of what they think is power and power at their choice and time whenever they want to use it!. They are sadly mistaken. WE THE PEOPLE have the true power. And we will not allow these 6 members to aid in the destruction of our country.They are installed to serve justice not DICtatorships !!!. TRE45ON.

byronius

(7,524 posts)
69. Traitor. Belongs in prison.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 06:32 PM
Sunday

That’s a job requiring behavior beyond reproach — but he’s just another toady. Tiny criminal just like the rest of them.

tishaLA

(14,270 posts)
73. The Times article has fantastic reporting
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 07:11 PM
Sunday

But my god is it depressing. It confirms that our court hAs been taken over by a group of overzealous ideologue. The only conservative justice who appears to have anything approaching a conscience is Barrett.

Beartracks

(13,215 posts)
75. Remember when Republicans used to decry "activist judges"? But then again...
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:21 PM
Sunday

... the fact that they ever accused supposedly liberal judges of being "activist judges" was simply a broadcast of their OWN very real activist intentions when appointing conservative judges anywhere in the judiciary.

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LetMyPeopleVote

(152,007 posts)
76. How Roberts Shaped Trump's Supreme Court Winning Streak
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:57 PM
Sunday

Here is a NYT article on Roberts' role is the SCOTUS efforts to help re-elect TFG. Roberts actions in these cases are really sickening and show that Robert and the other five conservatives have been actively attempting to help TFG in his legal issues. I have had issues with Roberts since the Shelby County case where Roberts gutted the voting rights act. Robert has now confirmed that he is a partisan hack.

This a NYT article that has some good facts. I think that the facts in this article show that Roberts is a partisan hack. The NYT does not go that far but provides enough facts to show that control of the SCOTUS is a key issue. This immunity ruling needs to be either overturned by adding more justices to the court or with the Presidential Immunity Act which contains a provision divesting SCOTUS with jurisdiction over this issue. The naked partisanship of the SCOTUS needs to be addressed if VP Harris wins and the Democrats have control over the Senate and the House.



https://www.nytimes.com/subscription/onboarding-offer?EXIT_URI=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.nytimes.com%252F2024%252F09%252F15%252Fus%252Fjustice-roberts-trump-supreme-court.html%253Funlocked_article_code%253D1.K04.mC2X.k9K6vnKaQdt6%2526smid%253Dem-share&auth=login-google1tap&campaignId=7JFJX&login=google1tap

Last February, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. sent his eight Supreme Court colleagues a confidential memo that radiated frustration and certainty.

Former President Donald J. Trump, seeking to retake the White House, had made a bold, last-ditch appeal to the justices. He wanted them to block his fast-approaching criminal trial on charges of attempting to overturn the 2020 election, arguing that he was protected by presidential immunity. Whatever move the court made could have lasting consequences for the next election, the scope of presidential power and the court’s own battered reputation......

The chief justice wrote the majority opinions in all three cases, including an unsigned one in March concluding that the former president could not be barred from election ballots in Colorado.

Another case involved a highly unusual switch. In April, the chief justice assigned Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. to write a majority opinion saying that prosecutors had gone too far in bringing obstruction charges against some Capitol rioters. But in late May, the chief justice took it over.

I read the immunity opinion and was shocked at how poorly reasoned such opinion was. This opinion looked like it was written by a non-lawyer like Stephen Miller. Robert's analysis was really weak. I am happy to see that I was not the only lawyer who was truly offended by Roberts' reasoning in the immunity opinion
In his writings on the immunity case, the chief justice seemed confident that his arguments would soar above politics, persuade the public, and stand the test of time. His opinion cited “enduring principles,” quoted Alexander Hamilton’s endorsement of a vigorous presidency, and asserted it would be a mistake to dwell too much on Mr. Trump’s actions. “In a case like this one, focusing on ‘transient results’ may have profound consequences for the separation of powers and for the future of our Republic,” he wrote. “Our perspective must be more farsighted.”

But the public response to the decision, announced in July on the final day of the term, was nothing like what his lofty phrases seemed to anticipate.......

“It’s a strange, sprawling opinion,” said William Baude, a University of Chicago law professor and a former clerk to the chief justice. “It’s hard to tell what exactly it is trying to do.”

Others said the ruling was untethered from the law. “It’s certainly not really tied to the Constitution,” said Stephen R. McAllister, a law professor at University of Kansas and former clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas.

Roberts has shown himself to be a partisan hack. The immunity ruling was really poorly reasoned and has the effect of making the POTUS into a king as noted by Justice Sotomayor
Chief Justice Roberts’s language in the opinion seemed intended to stay above the fray, extending protections to “all occupants of the Oval Office, regardless of politics, policy or party.” But in a withering dissent, Justice Sotomayor wrote that the majority opinion gave Mr. Trump “all the immunity he asked for and more.” It also, she wrote, protected “treasonous acts,” transformed the president into “a king above the law” and ultimately caused her to “fear for our democracy.”

The court’s leader shot back that the liberal justices “strike a tone of chilling doom that is wholly disproportionate to what the court actually does today.”

There at least two proposals pending to undo the immunity ruling that need to be addressed. Roberts proving himself to be a partisan hack makes control of the SCOTUS a key issue this cycle.

Martin68

(24,058 posts)
79. This is a big fucking deal! Proof that Roberts is in cahoots with the Trumpists. I look forward to the fallout.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 09:41 PM
Sunday

B.See

(2,830 posts)
82. The only differences between the conservative
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 10:22 PM
Sunday

SC thugs and the ones busting out the windows of our parked vehicles are, the latter

1. don't wear robes
2. aren't being highly paid for their crimes
3. don't engage in PRETENSE at integrity.

Which makes the former FAR WORSE.

czarjak

(12,171 posts)
84. Bushies best be worst.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 01:09 AM
Monday

W can still KMA. Someone said we'd be stuck with them for decades. On the bright side, Baptists and Catholics have never been so unified. Huh?

wolfie001

(3,079 posts)
88. This Golden Nugget def goes into the NYTs Hall of Fame!!!
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 08:11 AM
Monday

Remember, Robert's wife is a participant in this as well. She's a far-right consultant in these matters. They're both misguided religious wackjobs. Ditto Ginny Thomas and Alito's wife assisting from the "bench".

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