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erronis

(16,440 posts)
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 09:07 AM Sunday

Liz Cheney blocked January 6 scrutiny of Ginni Thomas, book says

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/15/liz-cheney-ginni-thomas-january-6-investigation

Liz Cheney, the Republican vice-chair of the House January 6 committee, did “all she could” to protect the rightwing supreme court justice Clarence Thomas and his wife, the political activist Ginni Thomas, by blocking an in-depth investigation of Ginni’s involvement in Donald Trump’s attempt to overturn the 2020 election, a new book says.

In Stench: The Making of the Thomas Court and the Unmaking of America, the reporter and Democratic operative David Brock writes that “two Capitol Hill sources with personal knowledge” revealed a “dramatic truth, which might shock even some jaded Washington veterans not easily surprised by callow examples of power protecting power.

“Liz Cheney herself, the star of the hearings, doing her turn as independent-minded maverick Republican, did all she could behind the scenes to protect Ginni and Clarence Thomas and thwart the move to investigate further the implications of the Ginni Thomas texts to [Mark] Meadows”, Trump’s final White House chief of staff.

Thomas and Meadows swapped extensive messages about attempts to overturn Joe Biden’s election win. The texts, including indications Thomas discussed matters with her husband, were leaked to CNN in April 2022, as the January 6 committee continued its work.


Be interesting to see if Cheney refutes this presentation.
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Liz Cheney blocked January 6 scrutiny of Ginni Thomas, book says (Original Post) erronis Sunday OP
Sorry I don't remember by whom but MotownPgh Sunday #1
I smell a deal orthoclad Sunday #2
That scenario wouldn't be hard to imagine. CrispyQ Sunday #5
Sorry, shorthand for "Clarence RV Thomas". orthoclad Sunday #7
Trump was an unexpected detour in their long term plan. CrispyQ Sunday #11
"Adaptive management" orthoclad Sunday #12
I'd like to see what a real* DOJ can find after perusal of the RNC's books. jaxexpat Sunday #29
Yup. Never, ever, sagetea Sunday #25
Look at all the cheering for Darth Cheney, orthoclad Sunday #34
A deal was cut from the beginning. Irish_Dem Sunday #28
Nothing says investigation like blocking an investigation bucolic_frolic Sunday #3
What else could one expect of Darth Vader's spawn? SheltieLover Sunday #4
Cheney is something of a White Knight to the Left these days. bluesbassman Sunday #6
Agreed. Not our friend. At all. orthoclad Sunday #8
Kind of like Pence. She's doing one thing right... Wounded Bear Sunday #9
That makes way more sense than the "Super Patriot" meme. bluesbassman Sunday #10
If she was, she wouldn't last long. flying_wahini Sunday #18
Welly well well well well. Kid Berwyn Sunday #13
That's exactly the republican look. Had it been any other person than trump she would have gone Autumn Sunday #21
For all the support Liz have to the J6 committee dlk Sunday #14
And yet, people here act like she's the second coming. She's a liar. mucholderthandirt Sunday #15
"Don't be fooled, people. They aren't on our side. We're just doing their dirty work for them." - exactly erronis Sunday #16
She also hailed the Dobbs decision. DavidDvorkin Sunday #17
I didn't know that. flying_wahini Sunday #19
THIS. dchill Sunday #23
Cheney kept the J6 Committee from investigating. Lonestarblue Sunday #20
Probably Lemon Lyman Sunday #22
'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'. Kinda, sorta, sometimes, for awhile... You get it. Joinfortmill Sunday #24
I've said it before and I'll say it again... MontanaMama Sunday #26
In the same way Stalin was on the Allies side. You take it for what it is. OnDoutside Sunday #31
What better place to be situated in order Karma13612 Sunday #27
Trends Toward the Preposterous MangoPulpinaSuit Sunday #30
Look it's pretty obvious that all the old school Repugs OnDoutside Sunday #32
A good question for... Windy Apple Sunday #33
Shocking development that a Republican is still a snake. aocommunalpunch Sunday #35
I'll be a devil's advocate for a moment. NH Ethylene Sunday #36

MotownPgh

(260 posts)
1. Sorry I don't remember by whom but
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 09:15 AM
Sunday

this was reported during the hearings that she pushed back on investigating ginny

orthoclad

(4,258 posts)
2. I smell a deal
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 09:16 AM
Sunday

Cheney lends R support to the committee in return for keeping the focus on T and sparing the QOP.

Her mission was to save the Right from Trump. She got booted, but she's still a star.

This is why so many insurrectionists kept their seats in Congress, and RV Thomas kept his power.

orthoclad

(4,258 posts)
7. Sorry, shorthand for "Clarence RV Thomas".
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 09:38 AM
Sunday

But I've thought "deal" for a long time.
Darth Cheney's daughter is a loyal right-winger. She (and the other cavalcade of never trump R's) are thinking long-term, beyond T's lifespan.

CrispyQ

(37,603 posts)
11. Trump was an unexpected detour in their long term plan.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 09:53 AM
Sunday

Now their party is fractured & probably broke. LOL. I'd love to be in the room the day repub leadership gets a real look at the RNC books.

orthoclad

(4,258 posts)
12. "Adaptive management"
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 10:00 AM
Sunday

They teach this strategy in biz school and the CIA playbook for coups.
Seize the opportunity!
They figured they could shave a whole generation of time off the Powell Memo long-term plan. It's a crapshoot. They're betting on a roll of the dice, with pretty good odds. They have a tv star!

jaxexpat

(7,428 posts)
29. I'd like to see what a real* DOJ can find after perusal of the RNC's books.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 11:58 AM
Sunday

* "real DOJ", a government agency responsible for prosecuting any illegal activities, even those politically motivated which threaten our representative democracy system of government, no matter the culprit or their ideology.

Also, when we hear the words "radical Democrats" from our newly discovered Republican comrades, we'll know the enemy among us is making their move.

sagetea

(1,425 posts)
25. Yup. Never, ever,
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 11:49 AM
Sunday

ever trust a republican. Use them like they use us.

I do fear that the 'Never Trumpers' will try to take over our Democratic Party. They allowed the ruination of their party and are without a party to claim. It's good that they are trying to separate themselves from the MAGA party, but my fear is at what cost will we Democrats have to pay the price for it?

sage

orthoclad

(4,258 posts)
34. Look at all the cheering for Darth Cheney,
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 01:20 PM
Sunday

we need to stay left and not let us become "centrist" (aka right wing) as they shift the Overton window to the right.

I always say: in a contest between faux Republicans and real Republicans, the real ones always win in the end.

Look where "reaching across the aisle" has gotten the country. It's like T's handshake trick to pull you off balance.

Irish_Dem

(55,605 posts)
28. A deal was cut from the beginning.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 11:58 AM
Sunday

This is more than obvious.
Cheney would go after only Trump and protect all the other high level GOP leaders.

bluesbassman

(19,667 posts)
6. Cheney is something of a White Knight to the Left these days.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 09:36 AM
Sunday

But prior to J6 she voted with Trump 98% of the time and prior to Trump, well she WAS Liz Freaking Cheney. People tend to forget that her brand hard right Conservatism, while not the psychotic twisted version practiced by the Freedom Caucus, was still anathema to our Democratic tenets and that Conservatism was instilled in her by one of the most evil and cynical men to ever hold office. She may be an enemy of our enemy at the moment, and therefore useful, but that doesn’t make her our friend and never will.

Wounded Bear

(60,053 posts)
9. Kind of like Pence. She's doing one thing right...
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 09:43 AM
Sunday

but there is still a dark history there. I've always believed she fancies herself the head of whatever remains of the repub party post trump.

bluesbassman

(19,667 posts)
10. That makes way more sense than the "Super Patriot" meme.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 09:49 AM
Sunday

Power and money drove Dick Cheney, it’s not unreasonable to believe the same about his daughter.

It disturbs me that people are actually tossing her name around as a possible cabinet member.

Kid Berwyn

(17,145 posts)
13. Welly well well well well.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 10:08 AM
Sunday

What have we here?

It seems it’s one thing to go after a corrupt outsider like Putin’s orange pee-brain and another off-limits to go after the BFEE’s corrupt SCrOTUS stooge Clarence RV 2 Bohemian Grove Thomas.

Not a good look for a lawyer or a repuglian.

Autumn

(45,799 posts)
21. That's exactly the republican look. Had it been any other person than trump she would have gone
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 11:17 AM
Sunday

along with Jan6 100%

mucholderthandirt

(824 posts)
15. And yet, people here act like she's the second coming. She's a liar.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 10:17 AM
Sunday

She only speaks out against Trump because she wants him gone so she and her ilk can go back to being nasty, conniving Republicans and get away with more shit. Just like her daddy, just like all those others who are "backing Harris".

Don't be fooled, people. They aren't on our side. We're just doing their dirty work for them. Don't think for a minute that they won't be hating on Harris the minute she wins.

erronis

(16,440 posts)
16. "Don't be fooled, people. They aren't on our side. We're just doing their dirty work for them." - exactly
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 10:22 AM
Sunday

well said.

Lonestarblue

(11,338 posts)
20. Cheney kept the J6 Committee from investigating.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 11:15 AM
Sunday

But what has prevented the DOJ from investigating Ginni? She is on record for calling Republican state election officials telling them to send fraudulent slates of electors to Congress. She paid to bus people (which people?) to the Capitol on January 6. I guess if you’re the wife of a Supreme Court justice who became rich from bribes, you also have absolute immunity for anything you want to do.

Lemon Lyman

(1,444 posts)
22. Probably
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 11:18 AM
Sunday

I'm sure it's true. She dislikes numnutz, but she's still awful. Nice that she speaks out one one thing. But her voting record is awful. She says and stands for all the horrific things they all do on that side.

MontanaMama

(23,855 posts)
26. I've said it before and I'll say it again...
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 11:55 AM
Sunday

I don't trust any of these rethugs in their support for Harris/Walz. The minute they're elected, the work will start to obstruct and screw them over in an effort to make them a one term Pres/VP. They'll keep trying to destroy SCOTUS too. Liz Cheney is no hero.

Karma13612

(4,643 posts)
27. What better place to be situated in order
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 11:57 AM
Sunday

To be knowledgeable of and help manage the Jan 6 committee? She had inside knowledge, and access to all the dirt and could help keep it going in certain directions while subtly steering it away from other directions like Ginni and Co.

Of course, this is all hindsight. I never actually was suspicious during the investigation. Silly me.

MangoPulpinaSuit

(14 posts)
30. Trends Toward the Preposterous
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 12:00 PM
Sunday

"They are who we thought they are. If you wanna' crown em', then crown they' ass. But, if it looks good, feels good, I like our chances."

-The late, Great, Denny Green-

OnDoutside

(20,556 posts)
32. Look it's pretty obvious that all the old school Repugs
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 12:18 PM
Sunday

are hoping to get rid of Trump and Reclaim the Republican Party. It's a welcome marriage of convenience but one would be shortsighted to think that Liz and the lads will be manning the barriers with the left. That's ok too, Trump and Putin are the existential threat, and besides hating Trump, Liz etc want Ukraine to win.

Windy Apple

(15 posts)
33. A good question for...
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 12:43 PM
Sunday

The Cheneys is how did Dicks Dresser/Haliburton ‘blind trust’ end up after the illegal war on Iraq ???

Great for the petrol industry!

aocommunalpunch

(4,327 posts)
35. Shocking development that a Republican is still a snake.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 01:46 PM
Sunday

When will people learn? Apparently fucking never. Stick them in a corner, tell them to shut the fuck up until they’re needed, and leave it at that. They are filled will venom and need the shunning. Christ.

NH Ethylene

(30,958 posts)
36. I'll be a devil's advocate for a moment.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 08:15 PM
Sunday

The Jan. 6 Committee had a huge hurdle right off in that it needed to be seen as nonpartisan or else the results would be dismissed.

If the committee went after all the other actors in what we realize amounted to a pretty vast conspiracy to keep Trump in office, then it surely would have been seen as a politically motivated and sprawling hit piece. It had to be laser-focused on Trump's role. It is possible that the choice was between getting the goods on Trump or spreading it out and getting nobody at all.

I can easily believe that Cheney wanted to preserve the remains of the Republican Party so she can rebuild it post-Trump, but it still was probably the best strategy for the result to be criminal indictments against Trump.

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