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Pope slams Harris and Trump as against life, urges Catholics to vote for lesser evilABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (AP) Pope Francis on Friday slammed both U.S. presidential candidates for what he called anti-life policies on abortion and migration, and he advised American Catholics to choose who they think is the lesser evil in the upcoming U.S. elections.
Both are against life, be it the one who kicks out migrants, or be it the one who kills babies,″ Francis said.
https://apnews.com/article/vatican-pope-trump-harris-election-0e0faef49ff587098f75b265e386bf22
Unbelievable.
Wounded Bear
(60,597 posts)SoFlaBro
(3,195 posts)Lonestarblue
(11,706 posts)And abortions arent performed on babies. Theyre mostly performed on embryos.
SoFlaBro
(3,195 posts)SoFlaBro
(3,195 posts)dalton99a
(84,074 posts)newdeal2
(920 posts)Has a pope ever interfered with a US election before?
DURHAM D
(32,834 posts)sarisataka
(20,898 posts)he gave no endorsement
Sequoia
(12,526 posts)Long ago when John F. Kennedy was running for president the Evangelicals feared the Pope would influence him, and the USA in turn. Lots of media fear and mongering then.
Long ago when John F. Kennedy was running for president the Evangelicals feared the Pope would influence him, and the USA in turn. Lots of media fear and mongering then.
Doodley
(10,226 posts)MagickMuffin
(17,066 posts)it states the soul doesnt enter the body until the first breath is taken, therefore, it isnt a baby or a human.
Where do you stand with children being for reals murdered in our schools?
just stay out of our politics. You dont live here and you cant vote and your opinion wasnt requested!
sarisataka
(20,898 posts)(emphasis added)
MagickMuffin
(17,066 posts)Not sure who was asking him for his counsel.
Perhaps he should focus on his involvement in covering up the priests preying on children.
moving on from this topic
Volaris
(10,593 posts)as well as is his position on 'he doesn't live here'.
As an American Catholic (at least marginally) I'll make my own democratic decisions regarding my non-papist, SECULAR government.
Never in my life would I give a reporter a comment on the record, on how I think his holiness should run HIS VATICAN, as it's neither my place, my perogative, OR my Personal Kingdom.
sarisataka
(20,898 posts)and if it doesn't match the Church's teaching that is between me and the Pope's boss.
As far as giving the Vatican my opinion, I am more than happy to do so, and as a member of the Church it is my right to give it.
Volaris
(10,593 posts)DURHAM D
(32,834 posts)His secretary?
sarisataka
(20,898 posts)but it is irrelevant, the statement he wasn't asked is wrong, as the article makes clear.
It may be quaint, by I prefer facts over fallacy.
Klarkashton
(1,944 posts)About what happens to those babies once they become adolescents and some pervert priest gets his hands on them.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,047 posts)GreenWave
(9,005 posts)if you are allowed into the Council of the War Gods, that is.
sarisataka
(20,898 posts)we demand clergy do not give political endorsements. But when asked to give an opinion the Pope says "vote your conscience" without giving any endorsement he is still wrong...
MorbidButterflyTat
(2,633 posts)YES. He's wrong.
c-rational
(2,859 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,990 posts)or demoted a single Vatican bureaucrat who covered for them.
Frankie can fuck off on this one.
Volaris
(10,593 posts)And while Francis didn't exactly 'demote' him, he DID put his self-righteous ass somewhere he isn't able to be a pain in anyone else's ass anymore.
I'm from St Louis, so PERSONALLY, I appreciate the hell out of this
Doc Sportello
(7,962 posts)Which the Catholic church has done for decades and decades. Along with many other crimes that would land the leaders of any other organizations in jail. Fuck the pope.
Johonny
(21,927 posts)BrianTheEVGuy
(563 posts)and not the primitive medieval feudal hellscape that Franciss corporation emerged from.
bucolic_frolic
(46,764 posts)favors Trump. The Pope caling Trump's migrant policy anti-life helps Democrats
RT Atlanta
(2,584 posts)n/t
onecaliberal
(35,676 posts)JohnSJ
(96,410 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,887 posts)Among Catholic voters, Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris has a slight advantage over Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, according to a poll conducted by RealClear Opinion Research and EWTN.
The survey's sample of 1,000 American Catholic voters Aug. 28-30 shows that 50% of Catholic voters plan to vote for Harris, compared to 43% who support Trump. When undecided voters are taken into account, Harris' lead rises to 54%, while Trump's support rises to 45%.
The poll, with a margin of error of +/-3 percentage points, reveals a significant gender gap. Among female Catholic voters, Harris has an advantage over Trump, with 56% of support compared to Trump's 37%. In contrast, 49% of male Catholic voters favor Trump while 43% support Harris. This division mirrors other polls taken in recent months on a national scale.
https://www.ncronline.org/news/harris-takes-lead-among-catholic-voters-economy-tops-concerns-poll-shows
DURHAM D
(32,834 posts)chowder66
(9,786 posts)He states Trump's worst evil is about immigrants and it is very much an evil but just immigrants? Not rape, not racism, not fascism, not negligence leading to 100's of thousands of preventable deaths, not adultery?
I think the Pope just showed us who he is.
BannonsLiver
(17,808 posts)🖕
malaise
(277,759 posts)and eff off
Atheist Ex Catholic for decades
2naSalit
(92,378 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,346 posts)sinkingfeeling
(52,963 posts)the politics to.us.
sakabatou
(42,952 posts)Retrograde
(10,615 posts)give the attitudes of many Roman Catholic priests and bishops in the US: in 2020 they supported - and told their parishioners- to vote for Donnie because of Bidens position on abortion. This is the same clergy that refuses communion to Catholic politicians who believe reproductive decisions should be left to women . (And they wonder why the pews keep getting emptier )
Francis is giving Catholics permission to base their votes on the whole package, not just on how candidates stand on one issue . And thats why people like Cardinal Dolan, the Heritage Foundation, most of the establishment clergy, and reactionary converts lke Shady Vance hate him.
hawkeye21
(230 posts)Maybe the pope should get his cardinals and other church officials to stop sexually abusing kids before he spouts off about an election in another country. I have many Catholic friends, but the fact is the Catholic Church bears many of the marks of a cult. The pope? Give me a break . . .