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TheBlackAdder

(28,664 posts) Sun Sep 8, 2024, 12:48 PM Sep 8

Lehto's Law: Navy NCO Demoted After Putting Unauthorized Starlink on Warship

Yeah, it doesn't help to lie about it three times when asked.

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Lehto's Law: Navy NCO Demoted After Putting Unauthorized Starlink on Warship (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Sep 8 OP

Why would somebody do that? getagrip_already Sep 8 #1

Access to sports scores, texting and movies. Mosby Sep 8 #3

Those are available to sailors, even on warships.... getagrip_already Sep 8 #4

An NCO should know better. A senior NCO should get a bad conduct discharge. Wonder Why Sep 8 #2

"on a WARSHIP"... could even the lay public not get the problem with doing THAT? hlthe2b Sep 8 #5

Took me a slow second for that to sink in. That's kind of ... stupid. Hekate Sep 8 #6

The security danger I can see is TexLaProgressive Sep 8 #7

And Leon*, oops I mean Eloon not fooled Sep 8 #8

Starlink tracking ship movement through non-secure means. pfitz59 Monday #9

getagrip_already

(16,908 posts)

1. Why would somebody do that?

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2024, 01:02 PM

Sep 8

Its not like you are breaking a minor rule. You are adding an unsecured network connection in a secure area. One that can divulge location, ship mission, or status.

This is about as serious an infraction as you can achieve without outright espionage or sabotage.

What was the purpose and what were they thinking?

Mosby

(16,985 posts)

3. Access to sports scores, texting and movies.

Reply to getagrip_already (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 8, 2024, 01:28 PM

Sep 8

That's why.

getagrip_already

(16,908 posts)

4. Those are available to sailors, even on warships....

Reply to Mosby (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 8, 2024, 01:38 PM

Sep 8

They are expected to follow security protocols though. Just like any workplace would impose.

But this is a big f'in deal. Ive been a contractor on military bases - even one on an island off the coast of florida - yes, that one). This level of stupidity would put you in jail.

There is simply no excuse large enough to explain this. "I didnt like the rules" will get you a stay in a military prison.

Wonder Why

(4,281 posts)

2. An NCO should know better. A senior NCO should get a bad conduct discharge.

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2024, 01:16 PM

Sep 8

hlthe2b

(104,917 posts)

5. "on a WARSHIP"... could even the lay public not get the problem with doing THAT?

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2024, 02:41 PM

Sep 8

an unsecured Starlink connection? Wowser.

Common sense is not a given any more.

Hekate

(93,494 posts)

6. Took me a slow second for that to sink in. That's kind of ... stupid.

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 8, 2024, 02:52 PM

Sep 8

Beam me up, Scotty

TexLaProgressive

(12,243 posts)

7. The security danger I can see is

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2024, 02:57 PM

Sep 8

The Starlink will allow unauthoorized communications with unknown people. May be the were only interested in sports scores, texting and TV shows, but I have suspicions that there could be something nefarious. The military at least in my day was awfully touchy about communications stuff like locations etc.

not fooled

(5,980 posts)

8. And Leon*, oops I mean Eloon

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2024, 03:31 PM

Sep 8

owns your unauthorized network. Talk about a security risk.

*https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/trump-mistakenly-calls-elon-musk-leon-at-wisconsin-rally-watch/ar-AA1qbfc6]

pfitz59

(10,723 posts)

9. Starlink tracking ship movement through non-secure means.

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Mon Sep 9, 2024, 12:59 AM

Monday

Unregulated messaging about ship location and operations. A whole slew of trouble.

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